Nameless Performance Equal Length Stepped Header

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by ImAwesome

oh my i want it

This. so much.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Nazarite

I, for one, would really appreciate it if you Aussies would quit thefting our threads please. Don't make me link a Fosters ad in here.

Ugh.. fosters.. that's Austrialian for shit.

[OrbitalEllipses]

That just looks like a better header! I'd be interested in a catless header design for optimum efficiency, but would probably go for a catted downpipe/overpipe to pass emissions ( there's a visual check) and for green feel-good points. IMHO the header cat is the more important one to remove for power gains, so that further downstream cat shouldn't matter too much. Now make it so Nameless, so you can have all my pennies!

As much as I'm averse to buying parts that don't make power, I would buy a resonated midpipe if it functioned well in noise reduction and was lighter than the OEM component.

[FT-86GOD]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Ugh.. fosters.. that's Austrialian for shit.

Correct......

[dwx]

Titanium would be great, I had a Magnaflow Ti catback on my WRX. It was single exit, but with a much longer midpipe, and the whole thing weighed 11lbs.

Of course there is a premium but some of us might be willing to pay it.

[Nazarite]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Ugh.. fosters.. that's Austrialian for shit.

I've heard Fosters is cause for great angst amongst those of the Australian persuasion, hence a fitting punishment.

Also, where the heck is the "thanks" button around here? Do I have to have a certain number of posts first to use it? Or am I just that stupid?

[phm14]

Originally Posted by Nazarite

I've heard Fosters is cause for great angst amongst those of the Australian persuasion, hence a fitting punishment.

Also, where the heck is the "thanks" button around here? Do I have to have a certain number of posts first to use it? Or am I just that stupid?

Yes, post minimum must be met, then your "thanks" button will appear. Seems like mine came in @ ~ 50 or 100 posts.

[Nazarite]

Originally Posted by Nazarite

Also, where the heck is the "thanks" button around here? Do I have to have a certain number of posts first to use it? Or am I just that stupid?

Turns out you've gotta have 10 posts to be thankful. So much for manners.

[Nazarite]

Originally Posted by phm14

Yes, post minimum must be met, then your "thanks" button will appear. Seems like mine came in @ ~ 50 or 100 posts.

You sir, receive my first thanks.

Sorry Nameless! I'm excited about all the development you're doing on headers and can't wait to see the final numbers. Great work.

[ImAwesome]

Originally Posted by dwx

Titanium would be great, I had a Magnaflow Ti catback on my WRX. It was single exit, but with a much longer midpipe, and the whole thing weighed 11lbs.

Of course there is a premium but some of us might be willing to pay it.

I had a full titanium single from J's racing on my s2k. weighed albs from the stock 55lbs

[Tainen]

Oh god. That catless header. Can't wait for dyno results...

And vids. Vids vids vids.

[Jason@Nameless]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

Catless would be non-roadworthy in Aus.

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

That just looks like a better header! I'd be interested in a catless header design for optimum efficiency, but would probably go for a catted downpipe/overpipe to pass emissions ( there's a visual check) and for green feel-good points. IMHO the header cat is the more important one to remove for power gains, so that further downstream cat shouldn't matter too much. Now make it so Nameless, so you can have all my pennies!

We'll always offer catalyst options in all of our designs. Especially if there is a regulatory reason to compel us to run them for a specific market. Keep us informed on what other regs you have, etc when we discuss design ideas. Orbital, what state are you in?

Snooze, I know we are working on an updated downpipe for the STi specifically for the Aussie market, featuring twin cats and a long tube high mount wastegate recirculation option. We want every excuse possible to come down there. Met with the GM at Pedders Suspension yesterday and hit it off great. Bill is an awesome guy and he was doing his best to give us reasons to come visit their operations down there. We'll probably be working with them directly in order to augment our line of control arms, sway bars and chassis bracing. Also keep us informed as to who your go-to vendors are for the BRZ so that we can chat them up about stocking our parts.

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Ugh.. fosters.. that's Austrialian for shit.

Quoting our friend Hayden from the Summit Rally Team 'We don't even drink that shit!' We set him up with an AR-15 and a fine 24.5 fluid oz target.

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

That just looks like a better header! I'd be interested in a catless header design for optimum efficiency, but would probably go for a catted downpipe/overpipe to pass emissions ( there's a visual check) and for green feel-good points. IMHO the header cat is the more important one to remove for power gains, so that further downstream cat shouldn't matter too much. Now make it so Nameless, so you can have all my pennies!

As much as I'm averse to buying parts that don't make power, I would buy a resonated midpipe if it functioned well in noise reduction and was lighter than the OEM component.

I'm glad to know that is something that people may be interested in. I'll toss one of our 'heavy lifting special' 4" resonators into the prototype we have here today and get some more videos of it on the car. That is a simple place for us to reduce sound and get people the option of a full 304 stainless system. I agree that the header cat should be avoided based on the behavior of the car with the catless header.

Originally Posted by dwx

Titanium would be great, I had a Magnaflow Ti catback on my WRX. It was single exit, but with a much longer midpipe, and the whole thing weighed 11lbs.

Of course there is a premium but some of us might be willing to pay it.

Ha. I have been to the company who made the mufflers and tips for those Magnaflow exhausts. I'm not a huge fan of overseas manufacturing, but I came from a company who had some excellent connections overseas. Believe it or not, most of that Ti Magnaflow stuff was made in Korea. And I'll tell ya what, those guys were amazing at what they did. Some of the coolest production metalworking I have ever seen, but when you went from the muffler/tip/y manufacturer over to the place that build actual exhausts it wasn't so much. Like I mentioned earlier we have got a quote out for 2.5" annealed Ti tubing and we will probably be trying to get some of these designs to market one way or another. In other exotic materials news, we are getting quotes on making all of these headers in 321 stainless. The main difference between 321 and 304 is that the 321 has much better strength of materials properties when at exhaust gas temperatures. May even allow us to run thinner wall thickness for lighter weight. May consider doing the same on the downpipe/overpipe combo as an optional selection. In that application it'd purely be for a weight consideration.

Originally Posted by Nazarite

I, for one, would really appreciate it if you Aussies would quit thefting our threads please. Don't make me link a Fosters ad in here.

Haaaa! Let em discuss that stuff, I'd love to hear what kind of regulatory environment our parts are going to be susceptible to so that we can provide the best parts possible with the least hassle for our down under customers. Although that does make me want to photoshop a Fosters ad with some car parts in it: I'm thinking....DOWNPIPE (photo of a downpipe with 4 catalytic converters in it, heat shields, regulatory warnings laser engraved in it), BEER (photo of fosters can) "Fosters, Australian for Piss." :-D Don't worry guys, we hate Budweiser and Coors also! Do you guys get any of our good beer from the Pacific Northwest down there? Rogue, Full Sail, Deschutes, Widmer, Red Hook? Any regulations against us throwing a good beer in every package we ship down there?

We might be brewing enthusiasts also...this 10 gallon Brutus brewing system was my first Stainless TIG welding project from a few years ago (note: I am not one of the welders here, but I can TIG Stainless well enough):



Jason

[dwx]

Originally Posted by Jason@Nameless

Ha. I have been to the company who made the mufflers and tips for those Magnaflow exhausts. I'm not a huge fan of overseas manufacturing, but I came from a company who had some excellent connections overseas. Believe it or not, most of that Ti Magnaflow stuff was made in Korea. And I'll tell ya what, those guys were amazing at what they did. Some of the coolest production metalworking I have ever seen, but when you went from the muffler/tip/y manufacturer over to the place that build actual exhausts it wasn't so much. Like I mentioned earlier we have got a quote out for 2.5" annealed Ti tubing and we will probably be trying to get some of these designs to market one way or another. In other exotic materials news, we are getting quotes on making all of these headers in 321 stainless. The main difference between 321 and 304 is that the 321 has much better strength of materials properties when at exhaust gas temperatures. May even allow us to run thinner wall thickness for lighter weight. May consider doing the same on the downpipe/overpipe combo as an optional selection. In that application it'd purely be for a weight consideration.

Yeah I've had other exhaust folks look at the Magnaflow Ti and everyone has always been impressed with the work. They only made them for a fairly short amount of time. Mine withstood quite a bit of abuse on the street and offroad as well.

I'm looking for a stock-class catback exhaust and as I understood right now replacing the factory midpipe isn't exactly a weight-saver, but if it was in Ti I'm sure it would at least save a few lbs. In the end the race pipe is going to be lighter than anything else and for larger events I'd end up just using that anyways as opposed to a dual-exit axleback. Now if you made the race pipe in Ti...

[mike2100]

Originally Posted by Jason@Nameless

I'm glad to know that is something that people may be interested in. I'll toss one of our 'heavy lifting special' 4" resonators into the prototype we have here today and get some more videos of it on the car. That is a simple place for us to reduce sound and get people the option of a full 304 stainless system. I agree that the header cat should be avoided based on the behavior of the car with the catless header.

Here's an idea: is there enough room in your catted downpipe for a resonator? Then there wouldn't be the extra cost of replacing the midpipe. Of course, then the car would have 2 resonators... dunno what the implications are, if any.

[white devil]

Quoting our friend Hayden from the Summit Rally Team 'We don't even drink that shit!' We set him up with an AR-15 and a fine 24.5 fluid oz target.

Uhhhhh......I didn't know I could pay with ammo........

[UncleFester]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

That just looks like a better header! I'd be interested in a catless header design for optimum efficiency, but would probably go for a catted downpipe/overpipe to pass emissions ( there's a visual check) and for green feel-good points. IMHO the header cat is the more important one to remove for power gains, so that further downstream cat shouldn't matter too much. Now make it so Nameless, so you can have all my pennies!

As much as I'm averse to buying parts that don't make power, I would buy a resonated midpipe if it functioned well in noise reduction and was lighter than the OEM component.

Well said, I have the exact same position on this. My locality in Virginia also has emissions via OBD with an additional visual inspection.

My only other request is that the cat be within 6" from the second cat's original location (I <B SCCA.)

I also thought it would be nice if we could cram sound & emissions onto the downpipe, thereby leaving everything else straight through until you hit the mufflers. That way for the track you could toss on a straight through downpipe and dump for a lightweight straight through race setup.

[FT-86GOD]

Originally Posted by Jason@Nameless

we hate Budweiser and Coors also! Do you guys get any of our good beer from the Pacific Northwest down there? Rogue, Full Sail, Deschutes, Widmer, Red Hook? Any regulations against us throwing a good beer in every package we ship down there?


Jason

I can certainly agree Budweiser is as bout as terrible as Fosters..... The rest u mention i have never seen at the local bottle (liquor) shop in West Aus but not to say its not in some of the more gourmet liquor shops around lol... Would be more than happy to find a few of ur local beers hidden away in the titanium system i hope to get through u guys....
Love the home brew kit

[Neziah]

Nice Home Brew set up! When is the first annual FRS/BRZ Nameless BBQ?

[eriktherod]

NC is a far ways away from WA but that would be one fun trip!

In more related news, somebody told me we have a similar visual inspection here in NC but I think most places are pretty lax about it. Hell, the last place I went to with my catless Si just saw my parking sticker for work (race team) and chatted me up about that while they just went through the OBD2 motions and passed it without a problem.

[Jason@Nameless]

Originally Posted by Neziah

Nice Home Brew set up! When is the first annual FRS/BRZ Nameless BBQ?

Well we're one of the main sponsors at the Big Northwest Subaru Meet on the 14th of July. We're probably going to be bringing the Traeger. :-D Come on our and check out our work, meet us face to face, enter to win a $100 gift certificate, etc.

http://bignorthwest.com

We are considering doing a regular meet-up here like COBB does with their First Tuesdays. We're in the middle of nowhere though, so it's a little tougher than being a big shop in a business park. The last meet we had, there were about 35 cars here. The driveway/pad/area surrounding the shop looked like someone was playing a game of tetris with Hyundai's and Kias.

We can take a crack at a catted and resonated downpipe, but it would require the rear section be re-routed from its current configuration. Will be testing a resonated midpipe today as well. Tossing the prototype intake on right now. Just got another datalogging run done for the catless header, seems to have no issues with O2 sensor differential readings or thermal readings, we're at about 10 key cycles, 2 cold starts, 65 miles and another 30 minutes of idle time beyond that and no CEL.

Jason

[ImAwesome]

Rogue is my favorite brewery

[Captain Snooze]

Hi Jason,
Thanks for the great information.
What are the chances of a single exit cat back design for those of us who want a light as possible set up? Perhaps with an aluminium or titanium muffler? Function>form.