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Thanks for sharing @Zaku! I can't wait to see both of these in person
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Finally finally we get LED HID, my biggest pet peeve that the 13-16 should've had from the start not those ancient halogen projectors.
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So pretty much the monospec they said they would release for 2017 except with Toyota badges. Probably would have been exactly the same car even if still badged as Scion. My guess is they will keep the price down for this one to soften the blow when the tricked out 18s with more trim levels come out. With the disappearance of Pure Price there is the possibility that they may raise the MRRSP a bit so that they can "lower" it when bargaining.
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btw more recent stuff from Japan [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CgzwjMX5aU"]ƒˆƒ‚ –ž‹ 86 KOUKI GT 試——てきŸ‚ˆˆNight ver‰&TOYOTA –ž‹ 86 KOUKI GT limited ŸŠ‹てきŸ‚ˆ ‚ƒƒ BRZと…にƒ“ƒƒ‚ƒž‚ƒŠƒƒ‚ƒ‚! - YouTube[/ame] [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szE1fbuK68Q"]€Œ走‚Œ! 86 ‰ˆ試—š in Œ士‚ƒ”ƒƒ‰‚‚‚€ 2016/07/31 - YouTube[/ame] [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjTPlHWLBdk"]ƒƒ‚ƒ‚ƒ‰ƒ‚ƒƒŒ–ž‹ƒˆƒ‚86 に—って„Ÿ˜Ÿ€Œ–度とはŸ - YouTube[/ame] Second two vids has lots of talking but you can see the new 86 Run around
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and yet still people will complain about how awfully slow this car is
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@Zaku (Won't let me quote)
"Yeah you're point on, I was hoping that Toyota would just do a GT trim for the whole world and just compete on the Limited Trim. But I guess they wanted to stick to the original strategy with something that's like a Premium and Under a Limited(basically just another FRS in the USA). At this point the 86 is just alittle more Lux than the Brz premium, probably in different seats, and trim pieces etc. Other wise it would be exactly the same, willing to bet it's within 1000$ margin of eachother. Maybe we'll see some sort of edition car next year with better stuff. Till then in my educated opinion, I think this Gen of 86 may not be successful as the FRS. But the BRZ will likely be steady with it's offerings." The more tidbits of info we get the more I am convinced that the death of Scion was (contrary to usual industry standards) swift and unplanned. This left a group scrambling to make the changes that had to be done at the very last minute. In my head I picture a Board of Directors meeting something like: "Well then it is agreed we are done with scion?" "Yes, but what do we do with the plans for the 2017 models?" "Oh just slap some Toyota badges on them and go with what we planned. We can come up with something else for next year" "Oh ok" Although many North Americans seem to think otherwise, Scion was a microscopic division of Toyota's worldwide operations and the FRS was just a tiny portion of Scion. As lucrative as the North American market may be they need to buy some time to decide and plan what they are going to do. This transitional version of the 86 buys them that time. I would think we should see some much nicer trim levels next year. Now of course their official statement back when they announced Scion's demise was "we will be considering more levels in the future" so maybe even 18 is optimistic. Only time and official press releases will tell.
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Also new pics after some blog searches
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Every time I see the front end of the new model, I am more revolted.
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We will see what the future brings but at this point in time, if nothing changes by 2020 when it is time for me to change cars, if I stay with this platform, then my next one will be a BRZ. Now, I will have to get it wrapped in a decent colour and trade somebody for the pre facelift tails but I do like that front bumper way better.
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I am a bit of the odd man out here since I never followed nor lusted after an 86. I read about the development back in 2010 or so and then promptly forgot all about it until I almost literally tripped over mine when killing time in a Toyota dealership while waiting for my Lancer to be serviced next door. I bought the car and then came here and franticly started to research before I picked it up and signed a week later. From 1997 to 2012 I was a die hard Mitsu fan so never considered anything else but when they pulled a fast one on Canadians with the 2012 Lancer GT models and dropped anything else that was not and econobox sedan, SUV or micro hatch I started looking for a replacement. I looked at Zes, Focuses, Darts, WRX/STis, Cameros, Challengers, Porsches and Genesis coupes trying to find what I wanted to replace that POS Lancer GT wannabe. I had pretty much settled on the Genesis when I happened to see a tC and decided to take a look which lead to the FRS. Sooooo, what will I get in 2020? Not clue at this point but you can bet I have learned a whole pile about different options since being on here.
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