JDM FRS engine - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

jamescallowa · 04-27-2016, 10:52 AM

My friend as 2013 FRS and is looking for an engine. His engine blew last week at 124,000 miles. We can't seem to find a good engine anywhere. Salvage yards who have it are quoting $2300.

I found a good JDM FRS engine at http://www.bestjapaneseengines.com/e...cion/scion_frs for $2000. Do you think buying a JDM one would be better ? They say it is tested !

mav1178 · 04-27-2016, 10:58 AM

there is no such thing as a "JDM FRS engine".

Guillaume · 04-27-2016, 10:59 AM

For $300 I wouldn't risk ECU incompatibility IMHO. Unless it's been proven to work ?

MisterSheep · 04-27-2016, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamescallowa

My friend as 2013 FRS and is looking for an engine. His engine blew last week at 124,000 miles. We can't seem to find a good engine anywhere. Salvage yards who have it are quoting $2300.

I found a good JDM FRS engine at http://www.bestjapaneseengines.com/e...cion/scion_frs for $2000. Do you think buying a JDM one would be better ? They say it is tested !

Is that $2000 shipped? I would check the shipping costs because a $300 difference might not seem that big when you have to ship from japan. You will probably pay more than the $300 in shipping alone.

Shark_Bait88 · 04-27-2016, 11:19 AM

Well that page appears to be for a place in Houston, not Japan, so I'd imagine you could pick it up.

Also, that's not a JDM engine. It's an FR-S engine. There are no FR-S's in Japan, just 86s, so no such thing as a JDM FR-S engine. There are only minor differences between the 86 and FR-S engine, because of driver orientation.

That engine is out of a U.S. based FR-S.

ML · 04-27-2016, 01:28 PM

How did he blow it?

Alltezza · 04-27-2016, 02:42 PM

I dont think this is a Honda man where the JDM engines are better like the B18C5 or B16B type R's.

There's no JDM engines I'm pretty sure we all use the same engines all over the world at least for our cars.

Just grab another FA20 engine and drop it in there.

cdrazic93 · 04-27-2016, 04:53 PM

...its....all the same....engine but ok.

MisterSheep · 04-27-2016, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

...its....all the same....engine but ok.

Don't the JDM ones come with the FA20det?

cdrazic93 · 04-27-2016, 04:57 PM

oh jesus shit, Sheep I dont have time for this...lol

soulreapersteve · 04-27-2016, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterSheep

Don't the JDM ones come with the FA20det?

My uncle's girlfriend's father's friend who owns a JDM 8 ball said "yes"

drankejackson · 04-27-2016, 07:53 PM

I just called these guys in Houston. They said it is FA20 engine from Japan. They said they list as FRS on their website so it is easy to find. I pretended I would buy it right now. He lowered the price to $1900. They said they also offer a fully rebuilt engine for $2800. I figured they have another website listing the same product http://www.usedjapanmotors.com/scionengines.aspx

Spartarus · 04-27-2016, 09:00 PM

"his engine blew"

Ah yes, that seems sufficiently descriptive to be talking about the price of new engines.

Why not rebuild the existing engine? What is wrong with it? What happened when it "blew" ?

It's the same goddamn engine. Whatever. save the direct injectors from his engine, the flow numbers have to match fort eh engine to run right. Everything else is compatible because it's the exact same god damn engine.

I have asked this question in every thread I see of this nature, because there are many.

Why is it ALWAYS somebody's friend? Why is it never the car's owner??

Also 124k miles? That's 100 miles plus per day every day of the year with no breaks since the day it rolled out of the dealer lot...?

mav1178 · 04-27-2016, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alltezza

I dont think this is a Honda man where the JDM engines are better like the B18C5 or B16B type R's.

There's no JDM engines I'm pretty sure we all use the same engines all over the world at least for our cars.

Just grab another FA20 engine and drop it in there.

Same engine, yes, but there is still enough merit to classify it as a JDM 4U-GSE or JDM FA20 if it is indeed exported from Japan.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

...its....all the same....engine but ok.

Perhaps, but the history of an engine from Japan is more unknown.

Quote:

Originally Posted by drankejackson

I just called these guys in Houston. They said it is FA20 engine from Japan. They said they list as FRS on their website so it is easy to find. I pretended I would buy it right now. He lowered the price to $1900. They said they also offer a fully rebuilt engine for $2800. I figured they have another website listing the same product http://www.usedjapanmotors.com/scionengines.aspx

Engine condition via compression/leakdown tests are pretty simple and tell you the same stuff across the board. You just will have to ask yourself one question: do you want an engine that's been sitting around an (unknown or) extended amount of time, or one that has not? That's the problem w/ engines from Japan, they have sat around for usually 3-4 months upwards of years before arriving here.

-alex

04-27-2016, 10:52 AM	#1
jamescallowa Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Drives: subaru wrx Location: houston Posts: 13 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	JDM FRS engine My friend as 2013 FRS and is looking for an engine. His engine blew last week at 124,000 miles. We can't seem to find a good engine anywhere. Salvage yards who have it are quoting $2300. I found a good JDM FRS engine at http://www.bestjapaneseengines.com/e...cion/scion_frs for $2000. Do you think buying a JDM one would be better ? They say it is tested !

04-27-2016, 10:59 AM	#3
Guillaume Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: Exige S 240 Location: Belgium Posts: 732 Thanks: 319 Thanked 602 Times in 287 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	For $300 I wouldn't risk ECU incompatibility IMHO. Unless it's been proven to work ? __________________ My car

04-27-2016, 11:19 AM	#5
Shark_Bait88 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Drives: 2013 Firestorm FR-S Location: Midwest Posts: 1,350 Thanks: 1,674 Thanked 865 Times in 481 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Well that page appears to be for a place in Houston, not Japan, so I'd imagine you could pick it up. Also, that's not a JDM engine. It's an FR-S engine. There are no FR-S's in Japan, just 86s, so no such thing as a JDM FR-S engine. There are only minor differences between the 86 and FR-S engine, because of driver orientation. That engine is out of a U.S. based FR-S. __________________ "Shark_Bait88, the man who’s spent the most money modding his stock FR-S and it’s still stock." -@jdnguyen

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cdrazic93 Junior Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: a car Location: Probably at school Posts: 4,341 Thanks: 3,184 Thanked 2,512 Times in 1,502 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	...its....all the same....engine but ok. __________________ "Ah! What music! They could have never imagined, those pioneers who invented the automobile, that it would posses us like this, our imaginations, our dreams. Men love women, but even more than that, men love CARS!"-Lord Hesketh

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cdrazic93 Junior Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: a car Location: Probably at school Posts: 4,341 Thanks: 3,184 Thanked 2,512 Times in 1,502 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	oh jesus shit, Sheep I dont have time for this...lol __________________ "Ah! What music! They could have never imagined, those pioneers who invented the automobile, that it would posses us like this, our imaginations, our dreams. Men love women, but even more than that, men love CARS!"-Lord Hesketh

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mav1178 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Drives: 2005 Toyota Camry Location: 91745 Posts: 6,562 Thanks: 493 Thanked 6,093 Times in 3,029 Posts Mentioned: 95 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	there is no such thing as a "JDM FRS engine".

04-27-2016, 02:42 PM	#7
Alltezza Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: WRB Limited BRZ Location: Tennessee Posts: 696 Thanks: 450 Thanked 276 Times in 177 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I dont think this is a Honda man where the JDM engines are better like the B18C5 or B16B type R's. There's no JDM engines I'm pretty sure we all use the same engines all over the world at least for our cars. Just grab another FA20 engine and drop it in there.

04-27-2016, 07:53 PM	#12
drankejackson Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Drives: subaru wrx Location: dallas Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I just called these guys in Houston. They said it is FA20 engine from Japan. They said they list as FRS on their website so it is easy to find. I pretended I would buy it right now. He lowered the price to $1900. They said they also offer a fully rebuilt engine for $2800. I figured they have another website listing the same product http://www.usedjapanmotors.com/scionengines.aspx

04-27-2016, 09:00 PM	#13
Spartarus ...Just add nauseum Join Date: Jan 2015 Drives: 2003 (AP1) S2000 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 545 Thanks: 310 Thanked 784 Times in 335 Posts Mentioned: 19 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	"his engine blew" Ah yes, that seems sufficiently descriptive to be talking about the price of new engines. Why not rebuild the existing engine? What is wrong with it? What happened when it "blew" ? It's the same goddamn engine. Whatever. save the direct injectors from his engine, the flow numbers have to match fort eh engine to run right. Everything else is compatible because it's the exact same god damn engine. I have asked this question in every thread I see of this nature, because there are many. Why is it *ALWAYS* somebody's friend? Why is it never the car's owner?? Also 124k miles? That's 100 miles plus per day every day of the year with no breaks since the day it rolled out of the dealer lot...? __________________ There are many ways to displace. -Spartarus

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