400ps! Taniguchi HKS 86 (JDM Clips)

[Turbowned]

Someone needs to develop unequal-length headers for this thing. I don't want too much boxer rumble, but I have to admit the sound isn't too pleasant.

I want it to sound more like this (granted this car has ITB's, but still):

KT AE86 drift show - YouTube

[Guff]

Originally Posted by Exhaust

Im happy for the performance, but ill definitely agree with some others. its sounds like a POS honda civic.

The interior shot of the Black FRS with TRD exhaust sounded pretty nice...

[dori.]

Call me stupid, but I was hoping the car would sound like a WRX...
gruuururuu~

[CoryUyede]

Originally Posted by dori.

Call me stupid, but I was hoping the car would sound like a WRX...
gruuururuu~

Fyi, if u put equal length headers on a wrx, it pretty much sounds like this. Im not a fan..it takes away all the character. Like having putting a v6 into a Corvette

[Spaceywilly]

desktop sized pic

[zigzagz94]

HKS GT Supercharger for 86/BRZ #ft86 #lovecars - YouTube

[dookie11]

Originally Posted by Turbowned

Someone needs to develop unequal-length headers for this thing. I don't want too much boxer rumble, but I have to admit the sound isn't too pleasant.

I want it to sound more like this (granted this car has ITB's, but still):
KT AE86 drift show - YouTube

This was a good watch. Just noticed he wears New Balance shoes, JUST LIKE TAKUMI FUJIWARA! HAHHAA

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by dookie11

This was a good watch. Just noticed he wears New Balance shoes, JUST LIKE TAKUMI FUJIWARA! HAHHAA

You got that opposite. Takumi is wearing New Balance shoes, cuz Tsuchiya-san is wearing it lol

[MANDALAY]

The way i see it there is going to be a race for companies/people to get out parts asap for the 86.

Most of them are going to be cosmetic and others claiming performance enhancement with real gains.
The usual things are to get rid of resonators , mushroom air filter, exhaust etc etc.
But for all that money really what is it going to get you ? A shift in the torque curve and a couple extra Hp .

The only real gain will be FI but which one and will it be supported ?
With other Toyota cars e.g the SW20 MR2 it was available as a Turbo so hey Toyota had to supply a beefed up gear box , axle and what not.

So IF Toyota does eventually release a FI obviously these parts would be available relatively cheap.
Who knows what this engine/gear box can handle ? Any one car to find out , i highly doubt.
The engine regardless is moulded as a N/A
To FI it all the necessary support gear will be required. Lower C/R ,Pistons,rods,head bolts,fuel , injectors,Intercooler ECU and the list goes on. If you think that is possible for $6,000 your kidding, try about $20,000.

So what i reckon we will see is a long time into the future before these being hotted up.

Now my 2 cents
this engine should be SC'ed as HKS has done so as to preserve the characteristics of a N/A engine. If you havent driven a Rotrexed car you wont know what i mean.
I have a Toyota Red Top Beams engine with a Rotrex and has the same power as the HKS car 400 Hp. Its a delight !

Then i highly doubt that this will ever be FI from the factory so there will be a lot of testing custom parts so as to handle the doubling of the power but i predict the sucess of the 86 will inspire another car from Toyota The Supra which then you will see FI

[Tradewind]

Yes and yes

A centrifugal charger is the only answer for this car to maintain the NA style power delivery with the least possible stress. People have be SC'ing the Subaru 4 cylinder engines now since 2008 with aftermarket kits up to 11psi on the stock internals. Plenty fun and no pain, this engine has some capacity for a low boost according to Subaru Engineers - as reported in Australian press article a couple of months ago

[MANDALAY]

Only thing where to put the bracket. Dont know if the HKS car has had the A/C deleted ?

[SnapOv3st3r]

Originally Posted by MANDALAY

The way i see it there is going to be a race for companies/people to get out parts asap for the 86.

Most of them are going to be cosmetic and others claiming performance enhancement with real gains.
The usual things are to get rid of resonators , mushroom air filter, exhaust etc etc.
But for all that money really what is it going to get you ? A shift in the torque curve and a couple extra Hp .

The only real gain will be FI but which one and will it be supported ?
With other Toyota cars e.g the SW20 MR2 it was available as a Turbo so hey Toyota had to supply a beefed up gear box , axle and what not.

So IF Toyota does eventually release a FI obviously these parts would be available relatively cheap.
Who knows what this engine/gear box can handle ? Any one car to find out , i highly doubt.
The engine regardless is moulded as a N/A
To FI it all the necessary support gear will be required. Lower C/R ,Pistons,rods,head bolts,fuel , injectors,Intercooler ECU and the list goes on. If you think that is possible for $6,000 your kidding, try about $20,000.

So what i reckon we will see is a long time into the future before these being hotted up.

Now my 2 cents
this engine should be SC'ed as HKS has done so as to preserve the characteristics of a N/A engine. If you havent driven a Rotrexed car you wont know what i mean.
I have a Toyota Red Top Beams engine with a Rotrex and has the same power as the HKS car 400 Hp. Its a delight !

Then i highly doubt that this will ever be FI from the factory so there will be a lot of testing custom parts so as to handle the doubling of the power but i predict the sucess of the 86 will inspire another car from Toyota The Supra which then you will see FI

Sorry, but you will not need to spend $20k just to boost this car. You won't need pistons or rods to make a decent amount of power and stay stock. Most likely it will need a Meth kit to keep things in check, if staying stock with the motor.

[MANDALAY]

Can you be sure ? Who will be the first to try. Someone will and once its established
watch all the aftermarket parts come out.

I highly doubt that they put the engineering into it to double the power ?

[SnapOv3st3r]

Originally Posted by MANDALAY

Can you be sure ? Who will be the first to try. Someone will and once its established
watch all the aftermarket parts come out.

I highly doubt that they put the engineering into it to double the power ?

There is already a turbo kit being put together. I will post the link once I get to a computer.

[MANDALAY]

One stock internals ? Well if it is it will be good proving ground if its documented.

However i believe it will will loose all its attractiveness with a Turbo

[Draco-REX]

Somewhere else around here it was posted that the retail version of the HKS supercharger kit will preserve AC. It's predicted to bring 50-80hp on stock internals.

[SnapOv3st3r]

Originally Posted by MANDALAY

One stock internals ? Well if it is it will be good proving ground if its documented.

However i believe it will will loose all its attractiveness with a Turbo

Turbo development being done. Highly doubt it will loose any attractiveness to anyone wanting to turn the car into a drift/track machine. If you don't find it attractive, then you just simply don't buy it.

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=215297

[MANDALAY]

There is nothing in the link yet but i will keep an eye on it.
12.5 and turbo. Like to see that . Gee i hope the waste gate works and it doesnt over boost
Its been done before, person buys car, wants more power. Adds a little psi. Then wants more and bang.
You cant cheat on the physics or whether the stock internals can handle the power.

50 -70 RWHP is great but the level wont last for long as human nature one will want more

[SnapOv3st3r]

Originally Posted by MANDALAY

There is nothing in the link yet but i will keep an eye on it.
12.5 and turbo. Like to see that . Gee i hope the waste gate works and it doesnt over boost
Its been done before, person buys car, wants more power. Adds a little psi. Then wants more and bang.
You cant cheat on the physics or whether the stock internals can handle the power.

50 -70 RWHP is great but the level wont last for long as human nature one will want more

The thread made its way here too.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8191

Pretty sure they know what they are doing. Boosting a car is not taboo. I'm sure a responsible shop such as the one building this kit will not blindly turn up boost just so the user can get his fix. If he adds a boost controller and turns it up himself, well then that would be on him to accept whatever issues arise there after. I am also sure that there will be some blown blocks at some point for the sake of finding the thresh of the FA20. Advising against it means no one learns anything.

[EsoBOFH]

Originally Posted by uspspro

You guys need to fix the front page....

It's not turbo, it's SC.

It is, in fact, a Super Charger;

http://www.hks-power.co.jp/usa/images/Pid=3676.html

Wow.. an additional 200 hp on a super charger? that would be awesome

[uspspro]

Mandalay,

The 400hp version is a race spec Rotrex'd car (not the actual "public" kit). It has a fully built motor. The SC goes where the AC was.

The street version (public kit) supposedly makes 250whp. The SC is mounted in front of the TB, backwards. The mounting bracket is a plate, with a hole of the pulley. The compressor inlet face forward and the pulley faces the front of the engine.

[MANDALAY]

Gotcha, its a bit like how i went . Thinking only SCing the stock engine then forging the engine and upping the PSI.

I wonder how long it is before someone has these engines on the bench ?