Idle issue?

[yayforaddison]

Alright so I called Scion today and reported the issue I'm having. I suggest others do the same. Its a quick phone call and the sooner we call, the sooner we may be able to fix this issue.

One thing, make sure you have your Vin on hand.
The number is 1-866-707-2466

[yayforaddison]

Originally Posted by whiteout fr-s

Well my car has been at the shop since last friday, was told I would hear back from scion by Monday and now it is going to be tomorrow. They say I am the only car in the nation having this issue. You guys should take your cars to the dealership, if anything it will speed up my recovery but seriously this seems to be a major issue. I threw CEL's as well as stalling but they cannot recover enough information right now to do anything about it.

Any word yet on your car??

[csaba]

Originally Posted by fistpoint

The reason why I'm not a 1st 86er is now showing up in these forums. My worst fear has come true, and I'm ready to buy now as in today but won't be until this shit is sorted out. I don't buy new cars to have them torn apart before the first 1000 miles, or 50-80k for that matter. Isn't that why we buy Japanese cars?

I do not believe for a nanosecond that they haven't heard or seen this issue on any of the Japanese cars that have been delivered already, or in initial testing. Bullshit.

I wish all of you luck in getting it fixed and taken care of, and am very sorry it is happening so early and to so many. I so badly want this car, but not if it's a mechanical turd. 7 years is what I need it to last.

I'm doing the same thing as you wait...

[csaba]

Originally Posted by fistpoint

The reason why I'm not a 1st 86er is now showing up in these forums. My worst fear has come true, and I'm ready to buy now as in today but won't be until this shit is sorted out. I don't buy new cars to have them torn apart before the first 1000 miles, or 50-80k for that matter. Isn't that why we buy Japanese cars?

I do not believe for a nanosecond that they haven't heard or seen this issue on any of the Japanese cars that have been delivered already, or in initial testing. Bullshit.

I wish all of you luck in getting it fixed and taken care of, and am very sorry it is happening so early and to so many. I so badly want this car, but not if it's a mechanical turd. 7 years is what I need it to last.

It is a brand new engine I guess they did not worke out every problem before production....
Its a shame knowing Toyota quality....

[DantKR]

No issue with my BRZ with 605 miles on it atm. It shuddered once but that was due to a .2 mile drive and I was sitting there letting it run for a little. Other than that no issue.

[civicdrivr]

Mine drops to ~4-500rpm too, with a/c on or off. It comes and goes, and I cant replicate it.

I currently have ~3,300 miles (yes, you read that right).

[ubersoph]

Originally Posted by ubersoph

Bringing mine in tomorrow to see if they can pull the code. This happened to me last night, and it scared the crap out of me :/. I got a CEL also, with the car in neutral.

No codes stored, so they couldn't pull anything. They will have to look at it again if it happens again.

[yayforaddison]

Im telling you guys. Call that number.

[ubersoph]

Originally Posted by yayforaddison

Im telling you guys. Call that number.

I have a Subaru. Don't think that's the right number.

[otoz]

My fr-s manual did this very slightly when sitting on level ground, but when its on an incline with the nose higher than the rear it was much worse. At first i assumed I wasn't clutching in all the way. I haven't noticed it at all in the past half tank of gas though since I put e0 high grade in it. I'll keep an eye out for it now though.

[Rabble]

Originally Posted by otoz

My fr-s manual did this very slightly when sitting on level ground, but when its on an incline with the nose higher than the rear it was much worse. At first i assumed I wasn't clutching in all the way. I haven't noticed it at all in the past half tank of gas though since I put e0 high grade in it. I'll keep an eye out for it now though.

Interesting, perhaps it is a fuel pump issue.

[R8]

Does it only happen with manuals? If so, does it change when you press or release the clutch?

Just saying because I think there's often some sort of sensor that adjusts idle or mixture depending on clutch position. If it's flaky, you'd get this problem. Not 100% sure about that, but I think I read about it once on the RX-8 forum.

[yayforaddison]

Originally Posted by Rabble

Interesting, perhaps it is a fuel pump issue.

Thats what I was thinking after this read.

We have also heard an issue with the crankshaft tho. Hmmmm I don't know

[yayforaddison]

Originally Posted by R8

Does it only happen with manuals? If so, does it change when you press or release the clutch?

Just saying because I think there's often some sort of sensor that adjusts idle or mixture depending on clutch position. If it's flaky, you'd get this problem. Not 100% sure about that, but I think I read about it once on the RX-8 forum.

Some autos have mentioned having this problem as well, and with the manuals, it happens in natural or clutch in.

[Re~Mix]

I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this. Can someone provide a succinct description of this phenomena?

My MT FRS is 2 weeks old and I have yet to notice it really drop below 500-600 RPMs except during user error (first time stick shift driver).

[encity5]

Doesnt this happen to many cars? and isnt it only a big issue if it happens regularly like 3-4 times a week) This happened to me previous scion tc 2012 on occasion (like twice)
Havent had it happen yet in the FR-S (~150 miles)

Doing a quick google search brings up essenitally similar concerns with a whole variety of vehicles. (not saying it isnt an issue though)

[civicdrivr]

The idle dipping a bit when accessories are in use is normal.

But dropping down to ~4-500rpm and taking a second or two to recover is not. It usually happens when I pull up to a red light and take the car out of gear. But as I said above, its not constant.

[armythug]

Hmmmm I'm surprised that this hasnt hit youtube yet. All of you owners that are having this problem need to get on the phone ASAP. This is making me doubt my pre-order. I hope that they get this sorted out asap but they need current owners to come forward now.

Sounds like a dodgy fuel pump

[yayforaddison]

Try and skim threw here. Most of us have very low miles. I personally have only had my car for one week and a day, 280 miles, MT (some in AT), and it has dropped well under 400RPM, hesitating to stay running, and has stalled once at a light in neutral. That was probably the 8th or 9th time in this short period. This is far from normal.

[yayforaddison]

Originally Posted by armythug

Hmmmm I'm surprised that this hasnt hit youtube yet. All of you owners that are having this problem need to get on the phone ASAP. This is making me doubt my pre-order. I hope that they get this sorted out asap but they need current owners to come forward now.

I've been dying to make a video, but you never know when its going to happen. I'd probably have to leave a camera recording the entire time I get in and out of the car to drive, and leave it far enough back to see the car in neutral.

Maybe I should take the camera with me to work today and tape it someplace lol

[yayforaddison]

Originally Posted by civicdrivr

The idle dipping a bit when accessories are in use is normal.

But dropping down to ~4-500rpm and taking a second or two to recover is not. It usually happens when I pull up to a red light and take the car out of gear. But as I said above, its not constant.

Took the words right out of my mouth

[Rabble]

You guys should post the section of your vin that says which number it was off the factory line. It would be interesting to see if there is a pattern of a specific batch of cars having this issue or if it is random.