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Old 06-11-2012, 06:49 PM   #45
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Looks like Toyota may already be looking to raise the price of the 86.

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...257A17001383EB
i'm not surprised.

they got the point across now and i'd bet by the beginning of 2013 they will increase the price slightly.
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:01 PM   #46
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That's expected from every new car bought. I hope they didn't make it sound like a freebie!
It might be what you have asked for with every new car deal my friend but i can assure you, having been in the industry for over 13 years that manufacturers rarely (if ever) have new cars freighted to dealerships with a full tank of fuel in any car. The average is between 5-15 litres if you're lucky. I have seen some new cars come to a dealership (not ours) with no fuel in them at all and they run out as the driver's are trying to get them off the trucks.

Sorry, i'm not trying to be patronizing but please don't take it for granted my friend, if a dealer gives it to someone as part of a deal or a deal sweetener then it is a freebie because the dealer doesn't get free fuel, they have to pay for it just like you and i do.
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i'm not surprised.

they got the point across now and i'd bet by the beginning of 2013 they will increase the price slightly.
Another point is that if they do increase the RRP (Recommended Retail Price set by the manufacturer inclusive of GST, sometimes referred to by clients as the list price* and dealers as the base price), allow me to share with you that the clause on most if not all NSW contracts of purchase of a motor vehicle that says something along the lines of "Price Ruling On Delivery Applies" means that even if you purchased the vehicle before the RRP increase the RRP increase WILL APPLY ON DELIVERY in other words if the price goes up before you pay for the car in full you may be asked to pay the price it is on the day - not what you signed up for in the beginning. If, however, you decide to cancel after you have been informed by the dealer that this has taken place, you may do so within three (3) days by giving written notice to the dealer. That's how it works in NSW anyway, not sure about the other states & territories.

As far as i know this particular clause was introduced to protect both the dealer and the customer from manufacturer price rises. Remember that when the RRP increases, so does the stamp duty and the GST as GST is included in RRP.

*List price commonly has 2 different meanings - to a customer it's the RRP, to a dealer it's the RRP excluding GST which is commonly used as a starting point when preparing a fleet quote or invoice.
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:19 PM   #48
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Another point is that if they do increase the RRP, allow me to share with you that the clause that states on NSW contracts of purchase of a motor vehicle that says something along the lines of "Price Ruling On Delivery Applies" means that even if you purchased the vehicle before the RRP increase the RRP increase WILL APPLY ON DELIVERY in other words if the price goes up before you pay for the car in full you may be asked to pay the price it is on the day - not what you signed up for in the beginning. If, however, you decide to cancel after you have been informed by the dealer that this has taken place, you may do so within three (3) days by giving written notice to the dealer. That's how it works in NSW anyway, not sure about the other states & territories.
which suck!! no other way to describe it.

but thanks Andrew for pointing this out so potential buyers can take this into account.
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:40 PM   #49
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Sorry, i'm not trying to be patronizing but please don't take it for granted my friend, if a dealer gives it to someone as part of a deal or a deal sweetener then it is a freebie because the dealer doesn't get free fuel, they have to pay for it just like you and i do.
I know they have to pay for the fuel but never once have I had to explicitly ask for the car to be filled up.

Maybe I've been lucky.
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Old 06-11-2012, 09:44 PM   #50
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I know they have to pay for the fuel but never once have I had to explicitly ask for the car to be filled up.

Maybe I've been lucky.
Yep, they sound like a good bunch mate.
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which suck!! no other way to describe it.

but thanks Andrew for pointing this out so potential buyers can take this into account.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:04 PM   #52
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Why give them a chance

Just walk

Not to be hard on salesman but they have to learn, look after me or i walk. Unfortunately a few bad apples spoil the bunch as they say.
I have made an order with another dealer and am about to cancel my one now. Looks like I will keep my extra $2000.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:18 PM   #53
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I know they have to pay for the fuel but never once have I had to explicitly ask for the car to be filled up.

Maybe I've been lucky.
Very lucky! With all the new cars I've bought or been there during the purchase process it has never been the case. Rather have the $60-70 in my pocket for the next full tank

Nothing better than getting into your new car with a full tank to start driving it everywhere, rather than waste time waiting at a busy servo 1km down the road.
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:13 AM   #54
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I agree, the dealer I got my Cilo 197 from gave it a full tank and even asked what fuel brand i preferred. a 'prestige' dealer in sydney sold me a Jetta on fuel light.. also cigarette lighter was not working and now the airbag lights are on.. never buy a VW
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Old 06-12-2012, 01:07 PM   #55
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So I put my deposit down today to secure one for around dec delivery (may be earlier but don't care).

$39,100 with 12months rego and full tank of fuel for a White GTS 6MT.
Hi Nikkojoe, which dealer was this if you don't mind me asking? You could PM me the answer if you want.

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Old 06-12-2012, 09:45 PM   #56
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It was Galleria Toyota in Morley. Kalamunda Toyota was the next cheapest at 39274 with the same deal, but Morley is much closer to me so I negotiated to get that deal.

The most expensive I had was 39800 with 6months rego and no fuel deal, so to put it in perspective it would have been close to 40100. Just need to go in there and know what you want before doing any deals
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Old 06-12-2012, 11:22 PM   #57
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Ahhh thanks I've already pre ordered a couple of months ago.

I went to the see that red GTS that was in Perth yesterday, and apparently my car will be due for delivery first week of July, but I didn't talk prices with the sales person as yet, that is why I was asking what your drive-away price was. Many thanks!
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Old 06-13-2012, 12:25 AM   #58
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I think id be inclined to cancel if they try and hike the price up on me before I take delivery. I doubt toyota will increase the pricing for the first batch anyway...
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Old 06-13-2012, 03:54 AM   #59
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Drive away prices for GT Manual, anyone? And those who have prices for their 86s, did you haggle?
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32573, but obviously that may change on the 18th.
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Nice. If you don't mind, which dealer is that from? I doubt it'll change that soon...if the price is going to increase it'll be at least 3 months away...
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Old 06-13-2012, 04:10 AM   #62
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32573, but obviously that may change on the 18th.
That's almost a grand less then I was expecting. What's the dealership?
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Brighton Toyota in Melbourne. Tbh guys, I think I've made an error - Im not sure how much stamp duty is supposed to be, but it looks like they've calculated it just on the dealer delivery fees, rego and all that jazz, and not on the total price. I'm reasonably new to this country so don't really know how stamp duty works, but my understand is that'd be slight over a grand for a car of this price?

If so, then yeah, will probably be around 33.5. Sorry guys!
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Old 06-13-2012, 04:17 AM   #64
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Brighton Toyota in Melbourne. Tbh guys, I think I've made an error - Im not sure how much stamp duty is supposed to be, but it looks like they've calculated it just on the dealer delivery fees, rego and all that jazz, and not on the total price. I'm reasonably new to this country so don't really know how stamp duty works, but my understand is that'd be slight over a grand for a car of this price?

If so, then yeah, will probably be around 33.5. Sorry guys!
I believe it's 2.5% of the RRP in Victoria mate. So it should be around $750.
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Definitely more than $45 bucks though :P

If that's all the costs, then whatever the stamp duty is (minus 45 bucks) on top of 32573. So around about 33298, which is still quite good I think. They've listed the paint as 'metallic', so hopefully that's included too.
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33,800 GT manual Drive away, does that line up with most others?
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