K&N drop in air filters..............will you? - Scion FR-S Forum | Subaru BRZ Forum | Toyota 86 GT 86 Forum | AS1 Forum

Liquidsnake · 06-08-2012, 12:06 PM

I see they are available on their site. $43.00 Will you?
Thoughts?

Draco-REX · 06-08-2012, 12:17 PM

I was about to when I figured out which one fit (33-2252 btw). But thinking about it, the MAF is so close to the filter media that I worried about oil getting on it.

Liquidsnake · 06-08-2012, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX

I was about to when I figured out which one fit (33-2252 btw). But thinking about it, the MAF is so close to the filter media that I worried about oil getting on it.

Didn't even think about that. Will you think about High-Flow Air Filter?

vividracing · 06-08-2012, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX

I was about to when I figured out which one fit (33-2252 btw). But thinking about it, the MAF is so close to the filter media that I worried about oil getting on it.

If you properly clean and oil the filter, you'll never have that issue. I've used oiled and oil-less filters on everything from vintage motorcycles to brand new cars and never had any issue. Also, K&N is very adamant that their products don't cause issues. Check the links for more info! K&N is my 1st choice in air filters on my personal cars and motorcycles.

http://www.knfilters.com/warranty.htm
http://www.knfilters.com/check_engine_light.htm
http://www.knfilters.com/common_misdiagnosis.htm
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/cons...ts/alt192.shtm
http://www.knfilters.com/air_filter_testing.htm

eriktherod · 06-08-2012, 12:56 PM

I was thinking about it, funny how Amazon says 33-2252 will not fit when you put in the 2013 Scion FR-S (just outdated page I'm sure).

Amazon has it for $36.33

Liquidsnake · 06-08-2012, 01:47 PM

So should I buy the K&N drop ins or are they a waste of $$$

Esoteric · 06-08-2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Liquidsnake

So should I buy the K&N drop ins or are they a waste of $$$

Thats the question... Not sure if anyone knows yet.
Typically, drop in filters make power, but on cars like this- its often 5HP or less...

Right now the only dyno figures I have seen are on prototype replacement intake 'systems'

Gardus@Supersprint · 06-08-2012, 03:53 PM

I like ITG filters. The 3 layers foam has good filtering capacity (still inferior to the stock paper filters) and it doesn't need oil.
On 200-300 hp cars a panel filter can be good for up to 3-4 hp...I'm talking about max power.

I change it only because I save up on the servicing.

Touge Monster · 06-08-2012, 04:38 PM

You can also use a TRD PTR43-00085 the FR-S uses the same 17801-0D020
filter as an 03-08 corolla and a 1st gen TC

RWD-boxer · 06-08-2012, 05:44 PM

I just got the 33-2252 k&n. And it sounds different .... I like

Liquidsnake · 06-08-2012, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWD-boxer

I just got the 33-2252 k&n. And it sounds different .... I like

Where did you buy it from? Online? Or local?

RWD-boxer · 06-08-2012, 05:48 PM

It's the same as the scion tc 1gen

Got it at autozone. 51$

TPO · 06-08-2012, 09:24 PM

I have the TRD filter in my fr-s. worth the $49 I spent.

Lytheum · 06-08-2012, 10:55 PM

didnt someone remove the air filter and say the car made no extra power? if thats the case i doubt any filter will make a difference. the only benefit of a k&n is never having to replace it.

GirlyScions · 06-08-2012, 11:18 PM

I had a k+n in a mustang for 70k miles and the engine light came on since the day I installed it.

Liquidsnake · 06-09-2012, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toyotapartsoutlet

I have the TRD filter in my fr-s. worth the $49 I spent.

Where did you buy that from?

Ishii Motors · 06-09-2012, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esoteric

Thats the question... Not sure if anyone knows yet.
Typically, drop in filters make power, but on cars like this- its often 5HP or less...

Right now the only dyno figures I have seen are on prototype replacement intake 'systems'

I forgot to put the stock filter back in when I dynoed our car.

This dyno was with a K&N drop in.

http://www.141motors.com/fr-s/dyno.jpg

See this thread:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8146

Ishii

RWD-boxer · 06-09-2012, 09:54 AM

If you look at the waves of the stock filter and the waves of the k&n

The k&n is tighter ....means that there is more surface area = more flow

For now that may not matter but with exhaust and other addon it will make .0000001 sec difference lol

TPO · 06-09-2012, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquidsnake

Where did you buy that from?

toyotapartsoutlet.com

BAE · 06-09-2012, 12:43 PM

I have ordered a K&N drop in filter, but I would love to see a dyno if it gives you any extra at all.

Asterisked Accolade · 06-09-2012, 12:48 PM

I wouldn't get just a drop in-- i'd get a short ram or something. Just a drop in wouldn't get you much power, but would likely give a bit better response, MPG and sound. I would love to get a heat-wrapped full intake though.

Darksword0 · 06-09-2012, 05:01 PM

Are you guys seriously thinking that a drop in filter will add any noticeable power???

A drop in filter isn't increasing the amount of air sucked into the intake enough to actually help the performance of the engine. IMO K&Ns are just a waste of money I mean sure they last "forever" but you still have to clean and oil them. I'd much rather just pay the $50 for a brand new filter every 10k miles or so..

If you really want to add performance through an intake system just get a CAI or SRI even then I doubt those will add much a noticeable difference alone. Full bolt ons and a tune would be the only real way to get a nice performance increase that would be noticeable.

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Liquidsnake Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: If god were a car he'd be an FR-S Location: LA Posts: 400 Thanks: 38 Thanked 129 Times in 73 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So should I buy the K&N drop ins or are they a waste of $$$ __________________ Last edited by Liquidsnake; 06-08-2012 at 02:02 PM.

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Lytheum Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ Premium 6MT Location: Ohio Posts: 301 Thanks: 19 Thanked 71 Times in 31 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	didnt someone remove the air filter and say the car made no extra power? if thats the case i doubt any filter will make a difference. the only benefit of a k&n is never having to replace it. __________________ 2013 Subaru BRZ Premium 6MT -STOCK!

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Asterisked Accolade Inverse Animosity Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Celica GT-S Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 1,197 Thanks: 358 Thanked 622 Times in 342 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I wouldn't get just a drop in-- i'd get a short ram or something. Just a drop in wouldn't get you much power, but would likely give a bit better response, MPG and sound. I would love to get a heat-wrapped full intake though. __________________ Inverse Animosity- These words codify my declaration of deference, and indemnify myself from the counter-progressive nuisance of biased judgment, ridicule and criticism based on discrimination such as driveline, engine size, pre-established dogmas, preconceptions or any such trivial nonsense.

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Gardus@Supersprint Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: Clio TCE Location: Mantova - Italy Posts: 577 Thanks: 17 Thanked 136 Times in 59 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I like ITG filters. The 3 layers foam has good filtering capacity (still inferior to the stock paper filters) and it doesn't need oil. On 200-300 hp cars a panel filter can be good for up to 3-4 hp...I'm talking about max power. I change it only because I save up on the servicing.

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Touge Monster Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 85 AE86 Hatch, 92 SW20 , 13 GT86 Location: San Francisco Posts: 320 Thanks: 134 Thanked 86 Times in 55 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You can also use a TRD PTR43-00085 the FR-S uses the same 17801-0D020 filter as an 03-08 corolla and a 1st gen TC

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RWD-boxer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Black Location: Tally Posts: 291 Thanks: 27 Thanked 49 Times in 34 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I just got the 33-2252 k&n. And it sounds different .... I like

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RWD-boxer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Black Location: Tally Posts: 291 Thanks: 27 Thanked 49 Times in 34 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It's the same as the scion tc 1gen Got it at autozone. 51$

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GirlyScions Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Mazda3 Location: PA Posts: 61 Thanks: 5 Thanked 19 Times in 10 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I had a k+n in a mustang for 70k miles and the engine light came on since the day I installed it.

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RWD-boxer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Black Location: Tally Posts: 291 Thanks: 27 Thanked 49 Times in 34 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If you look at the waves of the stock filter and the waves of the k&n The k&n is tighter ....means that there is more surface area = more flow For now that may not matter but with exhaust and other addon it will make .0000001 sec difference lol

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Darksword0 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Drives: 2000 Subaru Impreza 2.5RS Coupe Location: Easton, PA Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Are you guys seriously thinking that a drop in filter will add any noticeable power??? A drop in filter isn't increasing the amount of air sucked into the intake enough to actually help the performance of the engine. IMO K&Ns are just a waste of money I mean sure they last "forever" but you still have to clean and oil them. I'd much rather just pay the $50 for a brand new filter every 10k miles or so.. If you really want to add performance through an intake system just get a CAI or SRI even then I doubt those will add much a noticeable difference alone. Full bolt ons and a tune would be the only real way to get a nice performance increase that would be noticeable.

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