BRZ sedan

[Zaku]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Not saying I don't like it... just saying, both Toyota & Subaru haven't selling 86/BRZ for more than a yr, even less than 6 months & saying "86/BRZ is selling well, so we gonna use same platform to make sedan/vert version!" sound too fishy for me.

off-topic, my cousin had GTS... til he got rear-end. Here's a pic in junk yard

That's a shame about your cousin's car I really like the GTS variant, and yes it is very fishy, I think it's all hype and rumors. There isn't like any big plans, and I don't think they will do anything as such, especially with the WRX still not out nor is the new IS plus Lexus just got rid of another one of it's Sedan so I can't see another sedan in the future.

Unless some how the Acura ILX really secure the market which I highly doubt it will. When it comes to Sedan I rather they improve the corolla, it's there bread and butter car and it need to be able to compete with Hyundai and Nissan.

[Allch Chcar]

Okay now I see, the BRZ sedan was mentioned by "Fuji Heavy Industries Ltd. President Yasuyuki Yoshinaga"

And he reportedly said,

Since the BRZ/86 is so popular, it's natural to consider expanding the lineup," he said. "For example, adding a BRZ sedan."

Originally Posted by BioRage

Oh god the new subaru line up his ugly as hell...

That's neither here nor there. I have reread the article since I originally missed what the OP was specifically talking about.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Zaku

That's a shame about your cousin's car I really like the GTS variant, and yes it is very fishy, I think it's all hype and rumors. There isn't like any big plans, and I don't think they will do anything as such, especially with the WRX still not out nor is the new IS plus Lexus just got rid of another one of it's Sedan so I can't see another sedan in the future.

Unless some how the Acura ILX really secure the market which I highly doubt it will. When it comes to Sedan I rather they improve the corolla, it's there bread and butter car and it need to be able to compete with Hyundai and Nissan.

Yeah, I totally agree. 200hp RWD sedan is pretty much asking to get flamed left & right. Just say they bump it up 20~50 by FA25 or FA20 turbo, they're competing their own company's car (wrx, legacy, forrester... Pretty much all their line ups). Not a wise choice

[cackalak]

Sorry to bring back an old thread. But I think there is a market for this. How many sub-3k lb, RWD sedans do we have on the market? Zero. In fact, sub-3k lb sport sedans period are almost non-existent (aside for the FWD Civic Si and Mazda3). WRX has the AWD market secured in the mid-to-upper-$20k's price range. For those that want a RWD compact sedan...there's really nothing until you go up to a 3-series.

Personally, I would love to see the BRZ/FRS in a sedan trim. I'm not saying they're going to make a killing on it, but I think they would get enough interest to take away sales from Jettas, Mazdas and Si's.

[Umbie]

Originally Posted by Username

I'd be down to see the Supra make a comeback. Even as a Lexus if need be.

Note: New Supra and MR2 are currently under development. Expect them no sooner than 2014/15.

[goldenfri]

Originally Posted by yayforaddison

I'd loveeeee to see a sedan

I agree

[86BRZ]

I want a BRZ bicycle!

[Tsinoy]

LOL

[akyp]

So they're going to make a sedan by extending a chassis which was chopped from another sedan?

[Jaylyons1]

This would suck, but would not surprise me if it happened. Why waste the time and money developing something new when they can just throw some doors on something they already have. smh

[Draco-REX]

I think from looking at the examples from BMW, Porsche, Lamborghini, Maserati, etc that we can certainly say that giving two more doors to a coupe is almost always a bad idea.

The only exception is the Aston 4dr coupe. But Aston is incapable of making a bad looking car.

[goldenfri]

Look at what Subaru did with the GC Impreza. The body of the coupe and the 4 door are the same length. The coupe just has longer doors. Not sure if you can still get away with that these days though.

[cackalak]

Originally Posted by Draco-REX

I think from looking at the examples from BMW, Porsche, Lamborghini, Maserati, etc that we can certainly say that giving two more doors to a coupe is almost always a bad idea.

The only exception is the Aston 4dr coupe. But Aston is incapable of making a bad looking car.

Why would you say that? Look at the M3's. E36 had good success with the sedans, which came 2 years after the intro of the coupe. Then they decided not to go with a sedan option for E46. Guess they had more demand than they thought, because it's back for E92's. Looks like they're making plans to continue the sedan option for the next gen as well. I've always loved the lines of the M3 sedans over the coupe anyway.

[gily25]

Eh...it's not likely they'll make a 4 door version. Rumors at best, designed to annoy kia/hyundai in their quest to build a RWD based on the 4 door forte. It'd be underpowered (for most members here) and honestly most of us would have considered other more powerful options if we really needed to haul 4 people. Underpowered & 4 doors...remind me of old VW vanagons, just cause you can fill it full of people and crap, could luck cruising at a normal speed, hit a hill your passengers have to get out and walk up LOL.

Link with other pictures of mock-ups; don't think any is supposed to be furia:
http://kaizenfactor.wordpress.com/20...altezza-badge/

[Draco-REX]

Originally Posted by cackalak

Why would you say that? Look at the M3's. E36 had good success with the sedans, which came 2 years after the intro of the coupe. Then they decided not to go with a sedan option for E46. Guess they had more demand than they thought, because it's back for E92's. Looks like they're making plans to continue the sedan option for the next gen as well. I've always loved the lines of the M3 sedans over the coupe anyway.

I meant the coupe shape. So: BMW X6, Porsche Panamera, Lamborghini Estoque, and Maserati Quattroporte' (though I'm not a fan of Maser design anyways).

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by goldenfri

Look at what Subaru did with the GC Impreza. The body of the coupe and the 4 door are the same length. The coupe just has longer doors. Not sure if you can still get away with that these days though.

Correction. GM & GC had a different B Pillar area. GM (coupe) was further back due to long heavy doors vs GC (sedan) had B Pillar more center of the car. A lot of tuners/shops prefer GC over GM.

[nedmundo]

Originally Posted by cackalak

Sorry to bring back an old thread. But I think there is a market for this. How many sub-3k lb, RWD sedans do we have on the market? Zero. In fact, sub-3k lb sport sedans period are almost non-existent (aside for the FWD Civic Si and Mazda3). WRX has the AWD market secured in the mid-to-upper-$20k's price range. For those that want a RWD compact sedan...there's really nothing until you go up to a 3-series.

Personally, I would love to see the BRZ/FRS in a sedan trim. I'm not saying they're going to make a killing on it, but I think they would get enough interest to take away sales from Jettas, Mazdas and Si's.

I wholeheartedly agree it's a vacant niche in the market, and I've been hoping the success of the FR-S/BRZ would inspire someone to fill it. Maybe an 86 derived Toyota/Subaru, maybe not. I'd like to see Honda take a crack at it, because they still seem to build the best NA fours, but I don't see it happening. Maybe Mazda have something up their collective sleeve, as they've made noises about more rotary engines coming out, but another RX coupe is probably more likely. Apparently BMW's next 1 Series will be available as a sedan, but I doubt it will be well equipped for less than about $37k.

[Whistler]

anyone else here think a hatchback would be cool?

[Allch Chcar]

Originally Posted by akyp

So they're going to make a sedan by extending a chassis which was chopped from another sedan?

That's terrible. Everyone knows by now that only the mule was based on a chopped sedan chassis.

[dori.]

I'd love a new sedan in the spirit of the X chassis (Chaser/Cressida/Mark 2) but then Toyota would have to make it.

I don't think a BRZ sedan makes any sense because we already have the Impreza and Legacy.

[ZDan]

BRZ or FR-S based sedan would be brilliant, a modern-day 510

As far as I'm concerned, a smallish, lightweight rwd platform can and *should* be expanded to a whole lineup including:
2+2 coupe (FR-S/BRZ)
2- and 4-door sedans
3- and 5-door hatches
2-seat sports car (with engine, firewall, windshield, and front seats moved aft ~20" or so for 50/50 or better weight distribution)

[jmaryt]

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