How's the shifting of MT compared to other cars

[Lowellrenzo]

I'm new to driving MT so please gimme some ideas about your experience on driving manual. I got a MT frs and sometime the shifting is not smooth but sometime it is.

[eriktherod]

I just got mine today and coming from an 08 Si, I feel it's smooth. I'm not quite used to the rather short throw and often feel myself fumbling to find the first two gears but it feels solid and smooth. Still not used to how low it revs in certain gears while not lugging either.

[rcm47]

This is my first MT car also. I find it more easy to drive than the old hondas/ acuras I have tried.

[Moto-P]

There was a dedicated staff just for the transmission on this car, and folks from Subaru, Toyota, and Aisin spent many months perfecting the feel of the shift lever.
Personally, from my drives of the PP cars and production cars in MT, the shifter feels solid, but light, precise and accurate, and well stroked at the lever in both motion angles and lever travel.

Of course the ideal position on the floor console is dependent on the driver's size and body dimensions, but overall, I think it is one of the slickest shifting boxes in production cars today.

[Symbiont]

I absolutely love it. Much better than the Borg Warner T5 that I had to learn on when I was 16.

[pyro530]

I've been driving a stick since I was 16 (I'm 29 now) and this is by far, once of the best shifting cars I have ever driven. Only thing I would say comes close was driving my friends RSX. My SRT-4 Neon had a similar throw and the placement was better, but it didn't even come close on feeling and ease of shifts.

[WolfsFang]

I love the shifter but the clutch is to soft :<

[pr086]

Originally Posted by eriktherod

I just got mine today and coming from an 08 Si, I feel it's smooth. I'm not quite used to the rather short throw and often feel myself fumbling to find the first two gears but it feels solid and smooth. Still not used to how low it revs in certain gears while not lugging either.

the 8th gen si's were praised for their shifting (despite the 3rd gear issues). is the throw and feel of it noticably different? (better) ?

[dnL]

Originally Posted by WolfsFang

I love the shifter but the clutch is to soft :<

I agree. Compared to my current car, it's mind-bogglingly soft. I had issues driving my own car after a test drive of the FR-S because my left leg got spoiled on the FR-S clutch. I'm sure you'd get used to it after a while though.

[Billy2224]

If a BMW shifter is a 10/10 (which i think it is, i get excited to change gears) how would the FRS/GT86/BRZ compare /10???

[Hanakuso]

Anyone have any experience coming from an S2000?

[kevinnivek8877]

I agree as well. The clutch on the BRZ is soft as well and the catch point is too high up. I hope there's a way to adjust this without going aftermarket.

Originally Posted by dnL

I agree. Compared to my current car, it's mind-bogglingly soft. I had issues driving my own car after a test drive of the FR-S because my left leg got spoiled on the FR-S clutch. I'm sure you'd get used to it after a while though.

[mankarn86]

Originally Posted by Billy2224

If a BMW shifter is a 10/10 (which i think it is, i get excited to change gears) how would the FRS/GT86/BRZ compare /10???

Which generation bmw? I've driven the 128i, and 328i (e90) and I didn't like either shifter at all. My mazda 3 shifter was actually better than both these cars IMHO.

Originally Posted by kevinnivek8877

I agree as well. The clutch on the BRZ is soft as well and the catch point is too high up. I hope there's a way to adjust this without going aftermarket.

Catch point is adjustable on most clutches...

Originally Posted by dnL

I agree. Compared to my current car, it's mind-bogglingly soft. I had issues driving my own car after a test drive of the FR-S because my left leg got spoiled on the FR-S clutch. I'm sure you'd get used to it after a while though.

Soft is actually a good thing esp on a DD. I drove a mazdaspeed3, and the clutch drove me wild after 15 min...my leg was so sore...
If the clutch stiffness bothers you, put in an aftermarket clutch...I don't blame toyo/subie for putting in a soft clutch...

[#87]

Originally Posted by eriktherod

I just got mine today and coming from an 08 Si, I feel it's smooth. I'm not quite used to the rather short throw and often feel myself fumbling to find the first two gears but it feels solid and smooth. Still not used to how low it revs in certain gears while not lugging either.

I like the shifter much better than the Si but I am kinda thinking I like the feel of the Si clutch, I feel I was much better able to feel the engagement point. What do you think?

[Boosted2.0]

Originally Posted by Lowellrenzo

I'm new to driving MT so please gimme some ideas about your experience on driving manual. I got a MT frs and sometime the shifting is not smooth but sometime it is.

Best shift feel of any Toyota ever. Only other trans I have ever felt that was this good was the S2000. S2000 may have even been a leeeetle bit better than this one, but as far as I am concerned, Toyota and Subaru knocked this TL70 manual trans out of the ballpark.

[viper_driver]

Originally Posted by Hanakuso

Anyone have any experience coming from an S2000?

I'm in the same boat as you, coming from S2k. I think we're screwed for life, comparing anything we drive to what's been described as the best trans ever made.

I sat in one today and moved through the gears, couldn't talk my way into a drive of someone else's preorder though. Not moving the throws, clicks, and sounds reminded me a lot of the S2k. Sure hope the trans lives up, I drove a WRX a while back hoping to buy one...a couple shifts of the gearbox and I knew I couldn't own that car after having the S2k.

[Hanakuso]

Originally Posted by viper_driver

I'm in the same boat as you, coming from S2k. I think we're screwed for life, comparing anything we drive to what's been described as the best trans ever made.

I sat in one today and moved through the gears, couldn't talk my way into a drive of someone else's preorder though. Not moving the throws, clicks, and sounds reminded me a lot of the S2k. Sure hope the trans lives up, I drove a WRX a while back hoping to buy one...a couple shifts of the gearbox and I knew I couldn't own that car after having the S2k.

Yeah it seems the S2k had it perfect. Not too smooth but not too mechincal. If it's anywhere similar to the S2k I'm hoping companies come out with ways to tweak it. I don't think a short shifter will help

[Laika]

Originally Posted by Billy2224

If a BMW shifter is a 10/10 (which i think it is, i get excited to change gears) how would the FRS/GT86/BRZ compare /10???

13/10

My 540I with the 6 speed manual and M3 short shifter feels like driving an 18 wheeler compared to the BRZ. And I always rather enjoyed the 540I too...until now.

[huma]

I think it's good, but not as good as a itr or a rsx type s. The throws are shorter, but the gear shifts aren't as smooth.

[eriktherod]

I've done a good bit of city driving today and I feel like I'm starting to get used to the FR-S clutch. It's not bad, I'm getting the engagement points and I feel like it's not unlike the Si was. I don't need nearly as much to get rolling but sometimes I baby it and stall out attempting to avoid the 2k rpm launches.

[V1B]

Does your clutch make noise ? Like when u stopped for example put in first or reverse and push it and than kinda let it go without car dying. Just ull move but more looking for the sound . I heard today that its like boom and than nboom when relese the pedal is it normal? Never had that noise with fwd but idk how it soun with rwd.

[dnL]

Originally Posted by V1B

Does your clutch make noise ? Like when u stopped for example put in first or reverse and push it and than kinda let it go without car dying. Just ull move but more looking for the sound . I heard today that its like boom and than nboom when relese the pedal is it normal? Never had that noise with fwd but idk how it soun with rwd.

It's hard to tell what exactly you mean... what kind of boom? I don't think the clutch should be making any kind of boom noise on any car. In my mind, "boom" is a pretty loud sound. In my car, when the car is cold and you have the clutch pedal down, I hear some chirping but not something as loud as a "boom."