thoughts on waiting for the 2014 models?

[pyro530]

Originally Posted by konichiwaa-B

I couldn't wait. This car feels like a Porsche inside. The ****pit alone is a huge improvement over all previous Scion models. And the car handles so well! Rear wheel drive and an extremely low center of gravity. What's not to love about it. I just went out during lunch and did not slow down for the freeway on ramp. It seems like the harder you push it the more it digs into the turns. I haven't broken the front or rear loose yet.

One thing you will notice driving this car is that you approach cars in front of you very fast. You'll spend a lot of time waiting for people to get around a turn, on-ramp, etc. It's like everyone else is driving slow. This car inspires confidence and you don't really need to brake much before a turn.

I'm with you on this. I'm always wondering why people are slowing down for turns. I have a feeling I will be eating through tires quickly.

[MVJ1975]

Originally Posted by pyro530

I'm with you on this. I'm always wondering why people are slowing down for turns. I have a feeling I will be eating through tires quickly.

This bugged me in my tC. It absolutely annoys me now. You do not need to come to a complete stop to make a right turn. GO FASTER!

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by maxhazards

My only guess will be that 2014 will probably add:
- Turn Signals on the mirrors removing the bumper Sidemarker
- Steering mounted controls

Just my guess.

2014 will add push start and better seating materials and HIDS. Oh and the bespoke will probably be standard in the 2014 model.

[ZmZMWagon]

Originally Posted by konichiwaa-B

I couldn't wait. This car feels like a Porsche inside. The ****pit alone is a huge improvement over all previous Scion models. And the car handles so well! Rear wheel drive and an extremely low center of gravity. What's not to love about it. I just went out during lunch and did not slow down for the freeway on ramp. It seems like the harder you push it the more it digs into the turns. I haven't broken the front or rear loose yet.

One thing you will notice driving this car is that you approach cars in front of you very fast. You'll spend a lot of time waiting for people to get around a turn, on-ramp, etc. It's like everyone else is driving slow. This car inspires confidence and you don't really need to brake much before a turn.

I feel the same way when I drive my Golf......it's not the car it's just people in general don't know how to take turns. If you had an s2000, RX8, MS3, Civic Si, GTi, Porsche, etc. I doubt you'd have these issues...

OP, I think I read somewhere that Toy/Sub would be doing improvements on the FRS/BRZ on a yearly basis much like Nissan had done with the GT-R. Can someone confirm?

[pyro530]

Originally Posted by ZmZMWagon

I feel the same way when I drive my Golf......it's not the car it's just people in general don't know how to take turns. If you had an s2000, RX8, MS3, Civic Si, GTi, Porsche, etc. I doubt you'd have these issues...

OP, I think I read somewhere that Toy/Sub would be doing improvements on the FRS/BRZ on a yearly basis much like Nissan had done with the GT-R. Can someone confirm?

From what I understand they are going to do special editions or options that are only available for that model year. The next year they will have something else new or unique. Although they didn't specify exactly what is going to be unique each year. Could just be one year colors.

[clevrname]

I know next year is the 10 year anniversary of Scion and my Scion rep mentioned a Signature Series of each model, I'm sure the FR-S will be included. Also, I'm pretty sure the FR-S will get a release series eventually.

[Metallic BRZ]

I'm waiting till next year. Not becaus I want to but because my pre order likely won't come in till then. Man, the wait sucks.

[ft86Fan]

Anybody know when the 2014 model will be available?

[bazguitarman]

Originally Posted by tripjammer

2014 will add push start and better seating materials and HIDS. Oh and the bespoke will probably be standard in the 2014 model.

I think there is a good chance we will see these "improvements" for 2014. The lack of push button start and HID's are the most frequent complaints I've seen with the 2013 FR-S. Maybe a couple of different colors and a different style of wheels. And many more cosmetic/electrical/performance options.

[MindtheGap]

While you are waiting I will be...

[Brett]

There's always going to be a next better thing with everything. Cars, jobs, whatever. If you always wait for the best one, you'll never get anything!

[Buggy51]

Actually a more likely addition is the backup camera. From what I recall (unless the bill isn't passed), a backup camera is now required in all 2014 model cars. Most likely, the price will go up.

[Moto-P]

Originally Posted by pr086

the main reason i want to wait is the fact that this is a brand new car with no previous reputation on reliability. with a brand new run there will have to be kinks early on in the manufacturing. a late model 2013 model should be a bit better than the ones produced at the start. small issues are typically addressed as the year goes on to my knowledge. if the 2014 model has some nice extras (mainly keyless entry with push button start) i would go with one of those.

i love my current car which is a lightly modified (intake, exhaust, factory performance suspension) 2007 civic si, so i'm not in a huge rush to get out of it. but the frs is very exciting and i like that it has a lot of what makes the si fun. (handling, high reving)

Buy it when it is comfortable and sensible for you to do so. We'll all be here, and waiting! You just will miss out 1 year of fun with all of us who jumped in to have this one more year in our lifetime.

[buzznasa]

Originally Posted by yjbeach

Holding out to 2014: Maybe Hyundai will come out with a new GC, Updated FR-s and BRZ or purchase a used s2000 and have a lot of cash left over. I hate the video with the S2000 drag racing the BRZ, if both cars were built to go around corners I want to see a real race.

Apparently Mazda has taken notice of the 86 nipping at the heels if the MX-5 and are now asking fans over at Jalopnik (http://jalopnik.com/5915837/mazda-re...ders/gallery/1) what they woud like to see in the next model. Several have cited the 86 as the new benchmark. I wonder if Nissan will get on board and bring back the Silvia.

Could this be the catalyst for a resurgence in affordable "driver's" car that we have speculated about?

[mines13]

Originally Posted by tripjammer

2014 will add push start and better seating materials and HIDS. Oh and the bespoke will probably be standard in the 2014 model.

Sounds interesting, where did you hear this? I would also expect a nice bump in the MSRP if this is the case.

[pr086]

i hope they make the anouncement well before they are available. if the msrp is bumped up i will probably go with the 2013 model.

[Calidrifter]

Originally Posted by buzznasa

I wonder if Nissan will get on board and bring back the Silvia.

Could this be the catalyst for a resurgence in affordable "driver's" car that we have speculated about?

Nissan already stated that they had dropped that project. Im sure if the sales are better they, MAY, bring back the S chassis. But you have to remember this: going into model year 2013 Toyota had 0 (zero) sports cars. Nissan has 2, technically 3 sports cars (Maxima, Z, and GT-R) so adding a sport compact to the mix would definitely affect the bottom line.

This all might change if the FR-S and BRZ do really well. The main issues will be that people will be underwhelmed by the power. Especially when you can get a mustang for the same price and the soon to be released Focus ST will also be a main competitor that is turbocharged from factory.

The great equalizer will be gas prices, as the Mustang and possibly the turbo on the focus might eat more gas than the FR-S.

As far as waiting for 2014 I'm sure they might have some of the "upgrades" on the RS for the car which might show up early next year.

[SioXie101]

Im in the same boat as i dont usually buy cars in their first model years, i do my research, join a forum, know what initial owners learn about the cars, identify issues/problems if any then if im satisfied ill buy the following year. The good thing is in that span of time you know more about the car more than ever before.

Im waiting for 2 competitors to show up too, the lesser price Veloster Turbo with it funky design and high mpg and the upcoming Ford Focus ST which is priced like the Scion FRS manual.

i bet the HIDs and an upgraded interior will pobably be improved in the 2014 MY for the FRS.

for now ill wait and see how the aftermarket respond to this car.

[Turbowned]

I see no point in waiting. In addition to being the two most reliable carmakers, Toyota and Subaru are very good at taking care of their customers, and very much want this car to be a smash-hit for everyone. If you can get one now, go for it!

[clevrname]

I can't see Scion adding HIDs or BeSpoke standard. Being that Scion was initially made to be a basic car that the customer can customize, I don't see them adding it. But I will add that I will be terribly jealous if they do the HIDz. I am actually scheduling a retrofit for my FR-S because I miss HIDs so much....

[HunterGreene]

Originally Posted by clevrname

I can't see Scion adding HIDs or BeSpoke standard. Being that Scion was initially made to be a basic car that the customer can customize, I don't see them adding it. But I will add that I will be terribly jealous if they do the HIDz. I am actually scheduling a retrofit for my FR-S because I miss HIDs so much....

Speaking of HIDs, does anyone know what the stock bulb on the FR-S is? Would be great if I could use the kit that I already have on my tC

[pr086]

not trying to thread jack my own thread. but why do the bulbs in the frs LOOK like HIDs if they aren't? maybe its not HIDS that they look like, but they don't look like normal bulbs.