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Old 12-29-2010, 09:08 AM   #1
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Thumbs up Toyota FT-86 / Subaru 216A: They come at the end of 2011 indeed!!!

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In a 東京新聞 (Tokyo Newspaper) interview with the President of Fuji Heavy Industries Mori Ikuo, it was revealed that the Subaru version will be presented at the end of 2011, and from what I could understand from the Japanese text, it will be revealed in December. Toyota is expected to launch it also at the same time.

The article also reveals that testing, as well as the body of the car have been almost completed, and tests are been carried out at the moment in order to fine tune the car for foreign markets. Mori revealed that the car is very comfortable and fuel efficient. The low seating position, in conjunction with the low centre of gravity, result in feeling very confident in driving it.

The price will be around 2,500,000 .



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2,500,000 yen = 30,000 usd

This better be one amazing machine for the base price to be that high.

At this point though, if it turns out to be nothing more than a RWD DC2 Integra Type R I would be more than happy and probably line up to be first to get buggered for $30,000.

I forsee Toyobaru pricing themselves right out of their intended market if they continue down this path. Then the bean counters can say we told you there was no market for this type of vehicle now back to making multiple prius derivatives because that's what the mouth-breathers want.
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Old 12-29-2010, 02:50 PM   #3
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I guess we arnt gonna get HP numbers till just before it drops
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2,500,000 yen = 30,000 usd

This better be one amazing machine for the base price to be that high.
it's been said many, many, MANY times that you can't do a straight currency conversion from yen to dollar in order to speculate on the price of a car. generally speaking cost of living is much higher in japan and the price of any consumer product is higher in japan than it is in the us.

example: the FJ Cruiser in japan costs 3,140,000 yen. the cost of an FJ Cruiser in the US is 25,000-27,000. there's no telling how much this car is gonna cost until a US price is announced officially from toyota.
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2,500,000 yen = 30,000 usd
You can't just do a currency conversion to get the price we'll have to pay here. Take a look at all the cars sold both here and in the UK. A simple currency conversion doesn't accurately reflect the prices people pay.

Same thing happens when you compare prices in Japan to prices here. 2009 Honda S2000 cost $35,000 here, but 3.8M Yen in Japan (http://www.relojapan.com/livingcost.asp). If you assume the same ratio applies here, then a 2.5M Yen car in Japan ends up costing about $23,000 here. That's been about what people have been predicting.

The major caveat is the Yen is getting stronger, so the ratio might end up being a bit different, but the main point--that you can't simply do a currency conversion to predict the price of a car in USD by using the price of a car in Yen--still stands.

Edit: Thank you Cyde01. Sorry for the repeat post.
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awww yeeeeeeeeeeeah!
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This is very interesting. Can't wait for this bloody thing
On a side note, yen isn't stronger, it's more or less same it has been since before the gfc. The usd just isn't worth shit any more :p
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In an interview with the President of Fuji Heavy Industries Mori Ikuo, it was revealed that the Subaru version will be presented at the end of 2011, and from what I could understand from the Japanese text, it will be revealed in December. Toyota is expected to launch it also at the same time.
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2,500,000 yen = 30,000 usd

This better be one amazing machine for the base price to be that high.

CR-Z JDM MSRP 2,270,000 Yen
CR-Z USDM MSRP $19,000 USD.

As it's been said a million times, you can't do a straight conversion.

I predict a ~24k MSRP +/- $500 bucks depending on how the Yen swings this year.
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On a side note, yen isn't stronger, it's more or less same it has been since before the gfc. The usd just isn't worth shit any more :p
Strength/weakness of a currency is always gonna be relative.
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Yea, we tend to get all cars for about 40% cheaper than the rest of the world.. so about 23,000 seems about right for a FT-86
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That rendering does look appealing. Can't wait
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I wonder which model will be pricier? I'm thinking the subaru.
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Can't wait. A little surprised that the Subie version might come out before the Toyota considering how much info on the Subie version we've seen.
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A little surprised that the Subie version might come out before the Toyota
Eh? No where has there been any such speculation made at all. in fact, the blog post speculates that the subaru and toyota will be released at the same time. let's not get baseless new rumors started.
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Or LET'S START A RUMOR? how bout that and see how many mags it ends up in haha
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CR-Z JDM MSRP 2,270,000 Yen
CR-Z USDM MSRP $19,000 USD.

As it's been said a million times, you can't do a straight conversion.

I predict a ~24k MSRP +/- $500 bucks depending on how the Yen swings this year.
That sounds good for a base price -- although I wouldn't mind paying 30K or more for a loaded (boosted!?) one.

Hell, whether or not I end up buying one, I just want to test drive this thing already
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That sounds good for a base price -- although I wouldn't mind paying 30K or more for a loaded (boosted!?) one.

Hell, whether or not I end up buying one, I just want to test drive this thing already
Likely.
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Likely.
That's fine -- I still see this thing as having the potential (with boost?) to compete with the 370Z. Lighter, better handling and braking -- it can do it with less power.

I'm in bed with the Z, but fantasizing about the FT-86
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CR-Z JDM MSRP 2,270,000 Yen
CR-Z USDM MSRP $19,000 USD.

As it's been said a million times, you can't do a straight conversion.

I predict a ~24k MSRP +/- $500 bucks depending on how the Yen swings this year.
Meh, say it a million more and it will still be repeating like a broken record.

I would guess closer to $25k since the price quoted is 2.5mil yen. But based on those numbers you posted MatadorRacing, it could be closer to $21k. That would be a pleasant surprise.

Looks like I'm waiting for the baby FT for certain.
At least we finally we have an release date .
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I say 23K is more realistic. They don't want FT-86 to hurt tC sale, so they need to up the price of FT-86 to differentiate tC from FT-86.
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Hopefully it gets priced to compete with the 2.0T Genesis Coupe, so I think we can expect a sub-24k price tag.
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That's fine -- I still see this thing as having the potential (with boost?) to compete with the 370Z. Lighter, better handling and braking -- it can do it with less power.

I'm in bed with the Z, but fantasizing about the FT-86
Oh I agree. And that it would. circa $30k for a loaded, boosted model is more than fair. In fact, I'd go as far as saying that it'd obliterate the Z on a track.

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Meh, say it a million more and it will still be repeating like a broken record.

I would guess closer to $25k since the price quoted is 2.5mil yen. But based on those numbers you posted MatadorRacing, it could be closer to $21k. That would be a pleasant surprise.

Looks like I'm waiting for the baby FT for certain.
At least we finally we have an release date .
My math says $24k, but I wouldn't have a problem with $21k.

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I say 23K is more realistic. They don't want FT-86 to hurt tC sale, so they need to up the price of FT-86 to differentiate tC from FT-86.

$24k +/- $500 is $23,500 - $24,500 .....

Lets start a bet on the FT-86 starting price (regular NA base model, no stripped track version or turbo version or Gs).

p.s. I think the tC is a fairly different target market, but... maybe, who knows.
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