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Old 06-02-2012, 08:17 AM   #1
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how are you AT Fr-s enjoying the car =)

was peaking around and was wondering how you guys are enjoying the car.
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Old 06-02-2012, 08:44 AM   #2
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Loving it. Obviously, it's still in the break-in period so I can't hoon on it yet, but I have tossed it around a few corners (quickly enough to kick the flashing VSC light on) at decent speed. Curves that felt sharp in my tC seem to make the FR-S say "was that all? Take that faster next time"!

I always put it in Sport mode. Haven't turned any of the nannies off yet, and I haven't used full Manual yet either. Saving that for when I get a chance to take it out on an empty country road.
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Loving it. Obviously, it's still in the break-in period so I can't hoon on it yet, but I have tossed it around a few corners (quickly enough to kick the flashing VSC light on) at decent speed. Curves that felt sharp in my tC seem to make the FR-S say "was that all? Take that faster next time"!

I always put it in Sport mode. Haven't turned any of the nannies off yet, and I haven't used full Manual yet either. Saving that for when I get a chance to take it out on an empty country road.
I have only been driving it in "D". I switched on the Sport for a straight away once or twice. But need to definitely try it out more often. And I hear that Sport + Manual mode w/ the paddle shifters combined is orgasmic.
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Old 06-02-2012, 03:36 PM   #4
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Had mine for a week still getting used to it. I'm still not clear on the whole "sport" or "vsc sport" settings. Right now I'm leaning towards using just the "vsc sport" setting.
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Loving IT. Day2 put about 45miles up a windy road with alot od 25-35MPH turns and straightaways. by the time i got to this road, i had 2 stragglers behind me checking me out (240SX Nissan, RSX).. all of us were flying around the corners and being this is my first sports car and im 40+ yrs young.. i was able to get a few turn-after-turns where i left those crazy guys way behind me - but never got over 3500rpm..so it is so crazy.. everytime i saw 25MPH, i looked down and hit each of the turns at twice the speed very easily - this car is so much fun... i think the other guys following me had as much fun watching this fRS just carve it up with a rookie guy like me behind the wheeel.
i was tryign to get used to the paddle shifting but the combo of that and the Auto is just magical . i am so glad i got it this way and not in full Manual -- LOVE it...
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I was driving manual for the last 10 years, so this is a big change for me. I have to say the auto is very fun to drive. Once the break in period is over, sport mode is the way to go. It is so much quicker and responsive. Plus I like how it downshifts for you.

The other day I merged from one freeway to another on this long turn and kept the car right at 75mph. The front digs in and you really feel the traction. It's like you don't really feel the cars potential until you push it beyond the norm. That was a 45mph turn, but the FRS seems to just hunker down and stick to the road. It's very confidence inspiring. So far I am very happy that I chose AT.
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Old 06-03-2012, 01:08 AM   #7
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Ok ive got some hooning in, max rpm as of today 5900 RPMs by next fill up I should be broken in let me break down the modes for you
1 trac off : tires will spin on some surfaces from a stop, turns back on at 33 mph, also will turn on if you activate stability control by getting the tail out
2 sport : keeps you in a gear smaller even during cruising, holds gears longer when you start pushing the car, also this is a D mode only setting, sport will turn off evenually if in M Mode
3 vsc sport, lets about 5% slip angle before it starts stepping in, great for learning the vehicles dynamics and limits
4 funnest mode when hooning sport mode and vsc sport in D selected, great for back roads( sport and vsc sport act seperatly and aren't the same remember!)
5 all nannies off after about 15-20 % slip angle car starts to rotate more quickly, great for dirft roads

Also drove a dirt road today, so much mechanical grip!
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Also sport mode will notice spirited driving styles, from my understanding the mode becomes more aggressive, dropping down to even lower gears and holding them as you drive harder, I love that feature!
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This car puts a smile on my face every time. Even with a auto. I always turn the nannies off and put it in sport mode. Even in d. Unless it was raining. Back end was slipping out.
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I was driving manual for the last 10 years, so this is a big change for me. I have to say the auto is very fun to drive. Once the break in period is over, sport mode is the way to go. It is so much quicker and responsive. Plus I like how it downshifts for you.

The other day I merged from one freeway to another on this long turn and kept the car right at 75mph. The front digs in and you really feel the traction. It's like you don't really feel the cars potential until you push it beyond the norm. That was a 45mph turn, but the FRS seems to just hunker down and stick to the road. It's very confidence inspiring. So far I am very happy that I chose AT.


Still on the fence with this one...MT or AT....where in SD did you try this?? I'm wondering how this will fare on Wildcat Canyon Road up and down Barona
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Old 06-03-2012, 10:49 PM   #11
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I only took it for a test drive on the freeway. The reason I switched from a manual to an auto is because I commute a lot in traffic every day, and the manual was just too tiring. I commute over 60 miles round trip every day, and sitting in traffic with a manual was not pleasant. So I reluctantly made the transition to auto. If I had a commute of say 12 miles or less, then I would definitely go manual. As far as I'm concerned, there is nothing that replaces the precision of being able to shift at any moment. The auto may be smart, but nothing beats the control of a manual transmission. Maybe I'm just getting old.
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How am I liking it so far ???

I went up and down the county today on the I-15 and put its first 90miles on the freeway.. the onboard computer says 45MPG going an easy 65Mph the whole way.... (that was NO typo !! ) and taking real easy with the RPMs. Boy, THAT put a smile on my face ! Way way better than the rated 34mpg on the sticker. 6spAT , BTW !!!!

Stereo playing off the iPOD is ok, i have been looking at that SCION option from OPTOMIZE SCION..... 1000 dollars for alot of stuff - still looking at that !!!
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Still on the fence with this one...MT or AT....where in SD did you try this?? I'm wondering how this will fare on Wildcat Canyon Road up and down Barona
Headed out Telegraph Canyon Road EAST towards Campo ... those roads are way better and alot less traffic .. real scenic too - loved it.

ill be up towards Barona soon i am sure.. but those dont have any hairpin turns and tight 15Mph turns like towards Campo/Jamul.....

its Orgasmic ... like one guy said !
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The MT is one of the best I have ever driven, real crisp tight shifts. But pretty much the rpm/speed range as my current car. Just 6 gears in the same space as 5. But I am actually thinking about the AT after 40 years of MT rowing, just for something different? Would love to hear more about your likes and dislikes for the AT? All modes? I have only tried the paddle shifters in M. Interested in learning more about how it pulls in 5th & 6th on highway uphills or if you have to downshift a cog or two?
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That was a good explanation of all the different modes you can turn off, and I am still confused. Lol. Still having a blast anyways........if god were a car he would be an FRS.
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The MT is one of the best I have ever driven, real crisp tight shifts. But pretty much the rpm/speed range as my current car. Just 6 gears in the same space as 5. But I am actually thinking about the AT after 40 years of MT rowing, just for something different? Would love to hear more about your likes and dislikes for the AT? All modes? I have only tried the paddle shifters in M. Interested in learning more about how it pulls in 5th & 6th on highway uphills or if you have to downshift a cog or two?
I'm in the same boat as you....my worse fear of having an AT is uphill highway/freeway or any uphills....I get used to pull and go....
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...Interested in learning more about how it pulls in 5th & 6th on highway uphills or if you have to downshift a cog or two?
Here's my thoughts on it based on completing a road trip through the NC mountains. I can tell you, you won't be in 6th gear if climbing for any significant distance in the AT. It drops pretty quickly back to 5th and even 4th. 6th is definitely a "cruising gear". No real work gets done there.

Also, there is always a perceived lag between you wanting more pulling power (more torque) and the AT committing to it. I say "perceived" because that's exactly what it is. When you commit the throttle to it, the AT adjusts quickly, much better than any other AT I've driven, but it seems like a lag because you've already committed your mind to it before the car takes action. In a MT you think and do at the same instant so the car feels like its "reading your mind".

With now around 1500 miles on my AT, what I have adjusted to doing is using the paddle shifters as part of that process. If I know I'm going to pass, I now think and "shift" at the same time. Since the paddles always work, it puts those two action back together and the response is much more satisfying for me.

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When I am finally ready to buy one it'll be an Auto. I'm currently driving a VW DSG and it shifts like a dream. Have any of you ever driven a DSG that you can compare the FRS Auto with as far as gear changes? there is all kinds of info saying some of the components are from the ISF but some dispute this. Thanks.
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When I am finally ready to buy one it'll be an Auto. I'm currently driving a VW DSG and it shifts like a dream. Have any of you ever driven a DSG that you can compare the FRS Auto with as far as gear changes? there is all kinds of info saying some of the components are from the ISF but some dispute this. Thanks.
My current car is a DSG GTI. The FRS automatic I drove at a Scion first-drive event had quick shifts (better than other traditional automatics I've driven), but the DSG is slightly quicker and, as you already know, DSG shifts feel seamless when hard on the throttle.

The one thing I didn't like about the FRS automatic was it felt like the torque converter took a while to lock up in 1st gear, whereas in the GTI, the clutch fully engages before 1500 rpm. But that probably has more to do with the GTI's low end torque than anything.

The automatic in the FRS a nice transmission overall and probably smoother in everyday driving, but not quite as good as the DSG in my opinion.
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Hi, what is the RPM cruising 80mph with the automatic?
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My current car is a DSG GTI. The FRS automatic I drove at a Scion first-drive event had quick shifts (better than other traditional automatics I've driven), but the DSG is slightly quicker and, as you already know, DSG shifts feel seamless when hard on the throttle.

The one thing I didn't like about the FRS automatic was it felt like the torque converter took a while to lock up in 1st gear, whereas in the GTI, the clutch fully engages before 1500 rpm. But that probably has more to do with the GTI's low end torque than anything.

The automatic in the FRS a nice transmission overall and probably smoother in everyday driving, but not quite as good as the DSG in my opinion.
Good info! Thank you so much.
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Hi, what is the RPM cruising 80mph with the automatic?
Its a little under 3K on mine. I didn't capture 80, but here is 55, 60 and 70.
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