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Old 05-30-2012, 01:49 PM   #1
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So I pre-ordered my FR-S MT from North Bakersfield Toyota/Scion. I was told I was number one and they will contact me as soon as they come. So today i decided to call them to ask if any has arrived there. Internet Manager told me the have already sold the MT FR-S and they have 3 FR-S in stock that were automatic. No one from there ever tried to contact me with any info..Now they are going to see if they can trade from another dealer to see if i can get a MT FR-S. How lame is that. THX Brendan from North Bakersfield Toyota/Scion! Great Customer Service!!
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So I pre-ordered my FR-S MT from North Bakersfield Toyota/Scion. I was told I was number one and they will contact me as soon as they come. So today i decided to call them to ask if any has arrived there. Internet Manager told me the have already sold the MT FR-S and they have 3 FR-S in stock that were automatic. No one from there ever tried to contact me with any info..Now they are going to see if they can trade from another dealer to see if i can get a MT FR-S. How lame is that. THX Brendan from North Bakersfield Toyota/Scion! Great Customer Service!!
Whhhhhhhaaaa!?!? Was that with a deposit?
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Yep....$500 deposit
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Wow, that sucks! At least they are looking to trade with another dealership... Best of luck with that!
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Oh....they also told me that only 10% of FR-S came in a MT....the other 90% was automatic?? I don't think the would match their slogan "Bringing the Sports
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Damn that's frustrating, makes me paranoid too. I haven't even gotten a call back from my dealer. You'd figure being right next to the port they wouldve had em by now.
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Oh....they also told me that only 10% of FR-S came in a MT....the other 90% was automatic?? I don't think the would match their slogan "Bringing the Sports
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That is false information. Maybe for THEIR allotment. The overall US allotment is a lot closer to 50/50 AT/MT. My dealer is 50/50 so far. 1AT and 1MT. Both still at the port due to this hold business going on.

The other dealerships I've talked to are getting close to 50/50 as well. I think it might skew a bit closer to more AT than MT, but 90/10 is WAY wrong.
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Yep....$500 deposit
I'd give them a limited amount of time to find me another, or pull the deposit and go somewhere else, even if you have to wait, just on principle! Customer service that bad doesn't deserve to be rewarded with your money!
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Damn that's frustrating, makes me paranoid too. I haven't even gotten a call back from my dealer. You'd figure being right next to the port they wouldve had em by now.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7136

There is a hold at the ports right now. It's either due to an issue with the manual or they are holding the cars for the official June 1st launch date since some dealers were selling early.
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Oh....they also told me that only 10% of FR-S came in a MT....the other 90% was automatic?? I don't think the would match their slogan "Bringing the Sports
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That is false information. Maybe for THEIR allotment. The overall US allotment is a lot closer to 50/50 AT/MT. My dealer is 50/50 so far. 1AT and 1MT. Both still at the port due to this hold business going on.

The other dealerships I've talked to are getting close to 50/50 as well. I think it might skew a bit closer to more AT than MT, but 90/10 is WAY wrong.
They're more like 60/40 (60 on MT). But Jack Hollis think, that'll tip over in yr or so
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They're more like 60/40 (60 on MT). But Jack Hollis think, that'll tip over in yr or so
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So I pre-ordered my FR-S MT from North Bakersfield Toyota/Scion. I was told I was number one and they will contact me as soon as they come. So today i decided to call them to ask if any has arrived there. Internet Manager told me the have already sold the MT FR-S and they have 3 FR-S in stock that were automatic. No one from there ever tried to contact me with any info..Now they are going to see if they can trade from another dealer to see if i can get a MT FR-S. How lame is that. THX Brendan from North Bakersfield Toyota/Scion! Great Customer Service!!
Have you checked with Bill Wright Toyota? They should have 3 in by now.
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Oh....they also told me that only 10% of FR-S came in a MT....the other 90% was automatic?? I don't think the would match their slogan "Bringing the Sports
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Scion usually orders in 85% Auto, 15% manual, so using his BASIC knowledge, he would normally be correct. However, the FR-S is a unique type of car which will have the following build order (see next part of post):

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They're more like 60/40 (60 on MT). But Jack Hollis think, that'll tip over in yr or so
From what we were told, 50/50 first month, 60/40 second month (60 auto) but third month may go back to 50/50 or 40/60 (60 manual).
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From what we were told, 50/50 first month, 60/40 second month (60 auto) but third month may go back to 50/50 or 40/60 (60 manual).
That's what Jack Hollis said, when I talk w him.
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I've been pretty unhappy with my dealership experience so far as I have been in the dealership about 4 times since October of last year asking about the car. Thus far I had not been able to get a single sales person to give me any info or give me a call back and I wanted to pre-order my car.
I did finally get one sales guy who had a clue ... I will reserve my final judgement until the car is actually at the dealer and I see the price.
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That's what Jack Hollis said, when I talk w him.
I don't think he's too involved with the literal day-to-day. He probably has a gist of what is going on but not the full detail.

Our last confirmation on the numbers I posted was about 3-4 weeks ago with our DM, which literally just works on vehicle inventory. It's possible something may have changed from what we were told 3 weeks back, but it's unlikely. We were told that they will be monitoring the sales trends and tweaking the transmission order balance once things settle.
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Carson Toyota had 3 FRS last Sunday, 2 were gone by the time I got there on Tuesday and 1 last auto silver is sitting in showroom because the buyer they believed is backing out....I got to sit in tried out things but no test drive possible.....
First saleman came up repeatedly asked me if I want to do trade in even though I told him I prefer to sell my car privately....dude got mad because I emphasized I DO NOT want to do trade in....second dude came up blatanly told me they only sell this car if buyer has trade in....I basically told him to piss off leave me alone with the car lol that was mean but damn i got bothered....finally I got a hold of Nathan (he is one of their saleman and is a member here), very nice straight forward guy....he puts me on the list for a manual....
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Carson Toyota had 3 FRS last Sunday, 2 were gone by the time I got there on Tuesday and 1 last auto silver is sitting in showroom because the buyer they believed is backing out....I got to sit in tried out things but no test drive possible.....
First saleman came up repeatedly asked me if I want to do trade in even though I told him I prefer to sell my car privately....dude got mad because I emphasized I DO NOT want to do trade in....second dude came up blatanly told me they only sell this car if buyer has trade in....I basically told him to piss off leave me alone with the car lol that was mean but damn i got bothered....finally I got a hold of Nathan (he is one of their saleman and is a member here), very nice straight forward guy....he puts me on the list for a manual....
Is your FR-S coming with a $2,995 leather package? (But no additional mark-ups! )
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Carson Toyota had 3 FRS last Sunday, 2 were gone by the time I got there on Tuesday and 1 last auto silver is sitting in showroom because the buyer they believed is backing out....I got to sit in tried out things but no test drive possible.....
First saleman came up repeatedly asked me if I want to do trade in even though I told him I prefer to sell my car privately....dude got mad because I emphasized I DO NOT want to do trade in....second dude came up blatanly told me they only sell this car if buyer has trade in....I basically told him to piss off leave me alone with the car lol that was mean but damn i got bothered....finally I got a hold of Nathan (he is one of their saleman and is a member here), very nice straight forward guy....he puts me on the list for a manual....
Did this dealer tell you that all thier FRS come with 3rd party leather seats for an extra 3K over MSRP, because that's how Carson rolls... Check out the second post from MrFRsLA ....

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As long as Scion dealers are allowed to order the cars, they'll probably be 90% auto because dealers are morons and think that this is just another A-B econobox that the general public wants to use to drive through MacDonalds drive-thru and pick up 72 Big Macs with.
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Is your FR-S coming with a $2,995 leather package? (But no additional mark-ups! )
Lol, you too huh? They tried to shoved the leather on me too and said they like it so am I....my response is, it doesnt matter what you like, its about what i like...but oh well they seem to have listening problem....at least Nathan was kind enough to listen to what I want, and what I want is just a simple FRS....work with me people!
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Lol, you too huh? They tried to shoved the leather on me too and said they like it so am I....my response is, it doesnt matter what you like, its about what i like...but oh well they seem to have listening problem....at least Nathan was kind enough to listen to what I want, and what I want is just a simple FRS....work with me people!
I'm on the east coast buying a BRZ so I didn't have to put up with that shit. I saw the post from Nathan the other night about all of Carson's FR-Ss coming with Leather because if one has it they all must have it due to Pure Pricing or some bullshit like that. Crap like that just rubs me the wrong way.
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