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Old 05-27-2012, 04:09 PM   #23
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Used Subaru Legacy Coilovers..... Brian at AST made them...for Phoenix Racing and Spec B Leggy in 2009/10... same mounting points as the BRZ/FRS...just have to get the sway bar bracket fabricated for the front...and make sure the valving/spring rates do what I need them to..

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so do you think the shock travel is going to be the same? also what spring rates do you have in mind?
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Yes I do actually... AST and Vorshlag has indicated that the stroke and dynamic travel is within tolerable levels.. Words from Brian, "They are almost identical..."... soo..if a Professional tell me that ...its good enough for me....

Spring rates I am looking at ...5.5k Squared, 5k front/5.5k rear...6k front/6.5k rear...they should be close to what a Miata is running...lots of testing to do for sure..

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great info scooby South. I am not a subaru guy, but I figured this data would be out there. I am wondering if the camber curve correction and bump steer kits available on previous subarus will work here to correct lowered suspension geometry. Is there a central repository for this data yet?

Thanks for the data on the sway bars btw. I'd like to get a pile of parts together and spend a day at the track getting a setup that works. Maybe a couple other socal members here will want to help out trackside for the testing and interchanges?
Its going to be completely different for Bump steer on this car...as it is a Rear Steer Vehicle...meaning it will toe-in on the camber curve..used to be it toed out because all Subaru up to this point were Front Steer cars...so you would get Toe out...makeing turn-in kinda hinky...thus the bumpsteer kits kinda controlled that..

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Old 05-27-2012, 05:39 PM   #26
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Yes I do actually... AST and Vorshlag has indicated that the stroke and dynamic travel is within tolerable levels.. Words from Brian, "They are almost identical..."... soo..if a Professional tell me that ...its good enough for me....

Spring rates I am looking at ...5.5k Squared, 5k front/5.5k rear...6k front/6.5k rear...they should be close to what a Miata is running...lots of testing to do for sure..

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good to know and i guess since the fronts are struts running something squared like that would probably put you in the ballpark despite the fact that ast is using slightly higher than 7kg/mm in the rear for their miata shocks
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it is a Rear Steer Vehicle...meaning it will toe-in on the camber curve.
Not necessarily, the Subaru engineers had the option of giving the bumpsteer curve whatever shape they wanted, regardless of where the steering arm is. If the wheels are toed-in in bump, it isn't because of the steering arm location.
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Not necessarily, the Subaru engineers had the option of giving the bumpsteer curve whatever shape they wanted, regardless of where the steering arm is.
hmmm interesting...now that I think of it...with the flipped lower Control Arms...that minimizes that effect....Good Call

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If you want to go super low and mess with your ride height they yeah, BCs or similar will definitely make it happen.
Well, I'm not planning to lower it like crazy my local track is reaally bumpy. That's why I want a coilover setup, to adjust camber, height and damper like I want. With my wheels setup, a little bit of camber will be welcome ( 16x7 +33 ). Yeah, I could buy the expensive setup but for my needs...
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hey..sorry..I didn't mean to hi-jack you..I thought you were asking for options...

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hey..sorry..I didn't mean to hi-jack you..I thought you were asking for options...

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Ive installed BC coilovers on Evos, and 350z and its not my cup of tee, Ive always like Koni suspension coilovers...
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