ACE Header Independent Testing Results and Review - 199.6WHP on CA 91 Octane

[Apoc]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

Buy one and do the test. No one is obligated to test for you.

They already showed you a head to head test with a JDL UEL header which is one of the highest performing headers on the market along with the OFH and the Tomei.

blue is JDL on 91
purple is JDL on e85

No I don't think thats JDL in the dyno. They just said "leading brand" which to me means likely it's Tomei or Borla as those are the leading brands. Also the torque curve doesn't look anything like JDL's typical curve. It is usually very flat with mild peak at 5k pretty much like the one in ALT_BRZ's dyno

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Sleepless

Until I see a same day same dyno comparison with OFH or Tomei + Berk OP, I'm unconvinced.

If you're willing to pay for the Fuel + dyno and tuning time, as well as provide the headers/ops, I'll personally perform all the labor on the dyno.

The process will go like this.

Put on Header A. Tune for header A on both ACN 91 and E70.
Drain fuel tank completely.
Swap on Header B. Tune for header B on both ACN 91 and E70.
Drain fuel tank completely.
Swap on Header C. Tune for header C on both ACN 91 and E70.
Do 3 pulls on E70 for Header C.
Drain tank.
Do 3 pulls on ACN 91 for Header C.
Swap on Header B.
DO 3 pulls on ACN 91 for Header B.
Drain tank.
Do 3 pulls on E70 for Header B.
Swap on Header A.
Do 3 pulls on E70 for Header A.
Drain tank.
Do 3 pulls on ACN 91 for Header A.

I would expect the tuning to take around 18 hours on the dyno, and then all the back to back pulls about 3 hours.

[CSG Mike]

Also, for comparison's sake. From another thread, courtesy of Drift Office.

Note: their baseline is similar to CSG's.
2nd Note: I believe none of these have custom tunes.

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

2nd Note: I believe none of these have custom tunes.

Nope. They are definitely custom tuned by Drift Office himself.

[Calum]

Originally Posted by Apoc

No I don't think thats JDL in the dyno. They just said "leading brand" which to me means likely it's Tomei or Borla as those are the leading brands. Also the torque curve doesn't look anything like JDL's typical curve. It is usually very flat with mild peak at 5k pretty much like the one in ALT_BRZ's dyno

That torque curve is very similar to the Nameless/Cosworth header.

[Sleepless]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

If you're willing to pay for the Fuel + dyno and tuning time, as well as provide the headers/ops, I'll personally perform all the labor on the dyno.

The process will go like this.

Put on Header A. Tune for header A on both ACN 91 and E70.
Drain fuel tank completely.
Swap on Header B. Tune for header B on both ACN 91 and E70.
Drain fuel tank completely.
Swap on Header C. Tune for header C on both ACN 91 and E70.
Do 3 pulls on E70 for Header C.
Drain tank.
Do 3 pulls on ACN 91 for Header C.
Swap on Header B.
DO 3 pulls on ACN 91 for Header B.
Drain tank.
Do 3 pulls on E70 for Header B.
Swap on Header A.
Do 3 pulls on E70 for Header A.
Drain tank.
Do 3 pulls on ACN 91 for Header A.

I would expect the tuning to take around 18 hours on the dyno, and then all the back to back pulls about 3 hours.

Would be cheaper to just send the ACE to @Drift-Office and we could simply compare on 92... I just had him tune my OFH so we'd just need to compare with the ACE! Below is the OFH which cost me $700. If the ACE makes 200WHP on 92 on my car, I'll buy it...

[drm]

Very excited to see how this header performs with JRSC!

[CSG Mike]

I might have seen some updates.

Who wants an update? I might bug @CounterSpace Garage.

[Andrew025]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I might have seen some updates.

Who wants an update? I might bug @CounterSpace Garage.

Header and JRSC updates or different updates?

[Calum]

Originally Posted by Andrew025

Header and JRSC updates or different updates?

Yes because that would make a difference to the people here.

[sw20kosh]

Lol @ all the nay sayers

[Andrew025]

Originally Posted by Calum

Yes because that would make a difference to the people here.

It would for those who are supercharged.

[2ndgenhachi]

Very interested in seeing this with the JRSC as well. Curious how it compares with the tomei el that CSG is running.

[Sleepless]

Originally Posted by sw20kosh

Lol @ all the nay sayers

Well, it looks to me that OFH+OP gets almost the same power for half the price. So, for another $700+ you get like 3HP. I'm sure there is an EL for the price of the OFH that will get you that extra 3HP. I guess it boils down to other priorities, like FI + header potential or visual quality, or other things.

So, I'm not yet seeing the koolaide. LOL all you like