BRZ/frs vs Toyota Altezza Beams

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by mattles

Its a boxer, meaning it has perfect primary balance by design but the secondary balance is not as close to perfect as say an inline6 or v12. Its is about as smooth as any low displacement inline6 or v12, though.

Its night and day compared to a high strung inline4.

I own an 86, and I would buy it over an IS300 any day, assuming both were brand new, 0 miles, etc.

Thank you good sir! You have answered one of my issues I have had with owning my RSX and Ichi answered the other one about the auto tranny. I believe I will fall in love with the car because I like my RSX(Not 100% in love with it more like 75%) but this is my problem with it

FWD(UNBALANCED)
Strunged out 4 banger with weak low end TQ
Automatic with terrible gearing and no rev-match feature.

The FRS/BRZ fixes all of that.

[mattles]

the FRS/BRZ is a slow bastard in a straight line too, almost identical quarter mile times as the type-s RSX

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

Thank you good sir! You have answered one of my issues I have had with owning my RSX and Ichi answered the other one about the auto tranny. I believe I will fall in love with the car because I like my RSX(Not 100% in love with it more like 75%) but this is my problem with it

FWD(UNBALANCED)
Strunged out 4 banger with weak low end TQ
Automatic with terrible gearing and no rev-match feature.

The FRS/BRZ fixes all of that.

Is the tq curve really that much better than that of the rsx?

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by fatoni

Is the tq curve really that much better than that of the rsx?

Dyno shows a bit of richness before 3200 rpms than the RSX base I own. I need to drive the car to find out though.

[serialk11r]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

Dyno shows a bit of richness before 3200 rpms than the RSX base I own. I need to drive the car to find out though.

I think you'll be disappointed by low end power, I think it's fair to consider the K20 (any K20) torque delivery to be superior to the FA20 as the dual cam profiles really help make the torque more consistent whereas the FA20 has nothing at all below 2000rpm...but the rest of the issues should be fixed.

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by Brian S

I used to hate working on the top-ends of those yamahas slapped on yota blocks. People would rebuild or mess with their lotus's and bring them back to us when they realize they had no idea what they were doing. Itty biddy rocker arms where you need a microscope to try and measure clearences. Why I always got stuck with em who knows but I always ended up spending more time than needed on those things.

???

You talking about 2ZZs? We're talking about 3Ss.

[Dr.Science]

Have any of you owned an IS300? I haven't, but I was a valet when they came out & I always liked them (in my very limited driving). It's interesting learning about the car it was based on.

[Brian S]

Originally Posted by Dimman

???

You talking about 2ZZs? We're talking about 3Ss.

Oh okay havnt seen to much of them around here.. The 2Z was the only yota motor with yamahe heads around here. Were the head designs the same on both motors?

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by Brian S

Oh okay havnt seen to much of them around here.. The 2Z was the only yota motor with yamahe heads around here. Were the head designs the same on both motors?

3S had Yamaha head since like ~87.