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Old 04-24-2012, 03:13 AM   #67
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If I had the disposable income, I'd buy two of these cars: An FR-S for track duty, and a BRZ Limited for street. I learned the hard way that race parts are for race cars, not street cars. My MR2 went from a fun street car to an almost-race car and is no longer fun on the street. As such I'll probably turn it into a full track car and keep the BRZ street friendly. I won't cry if I accidentally stuff my 25-yr-old Toyota into a tire barrier, whereas I might if I did it in my brand new Subaru that I need to get me to work the following day...

Any word on a Spec-86 series in the States? I guess it could take a while; they only just announced a spec racing series for the 350Z this year. I think it would be a lot of fun for people with the budget - something different than Spec Miata, and a little higher skill than the B Spec series (Mazda 2, Fiesta, Fit).
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If I had the disposable income, I'd buy two of these cars: An FR-S for track duty, and a BRZ Limited for street. I learned the hard way that race parts are for race cars, not street cars. My MR2 went from a fun street car to an almost-race car and is no longer fun on the street. As such I'll probably turn it into a full track car and keep the BRZ street friendly. I won't cry if I accidentally stuff my 25-yr-old Toyota into a tire barrier, whereas I might if I did it in my brand new Subaru that I need to get me to work the following day...

Any word on a Spec-86 series in the States? I guess it could take a while; they only just announced a spec racing series for the 350Z this year. I think it would be a lot of fun for people with the budget - something different than Spec Miata, and a little higher skill than the B Spec series (Mazda 2, Fiesta, Fit).
I'm hoping to get a factory five 818 as a track car once I have a place to build it. The BRZ will be a commuter car for me that I can also use to learn RWD dynamics at autox and track days on weekends, skills that I can eventually transfer to the 818. There is a spec racing series for the factory five roadster so hopefully they'll do one for the 818 as well.
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I'm hoping to get a factory five 818 as a track car once I have a place to build it. The BRZ will be a commuter car for me that I can also use to learn RWD dynamics at autox and track days on weekends, skills that I can eventually transfer to the 818. There is a spec racing series for the factory five roadster so hopefully they'll do one for the 818 as well.
Yeah this. I can't wait to see what Factory Fives final product will look like!
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If I had the disposable income, I'd buy two of these cars: An FR-S for track duty, and a BRZ Limited for street. I learned the hard way that race parts are for race cars, not street cars. My MR2 went from a fun street car to an almost-race car and is no longer fun on the street. As such I'll probably turn it into a full track car and keep the BRZ street friendly. I won't cry if I accidentally stuff my 25-yr-old Toyota into a tire barrier, whereas I might if I did it in my brand new Subaru that I need to get me to work the following day...

Any word on a Spec-86 series in the States? I guess it could take a while; they only just announced a spec racing series for the 350Z this year. I think it would be a lot of fun for people with the budget - something different than Spec Miata, and a little higher skill than the B Spec series (Mazda 2, Fiesta, Fit).
I wouldsay the b spec takes more skill since errors are magnified with fwd and less HP


This car wasn't made to be a track car and probably won't be amazing as such but being competitive and being able to drive it home counts for a lot
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mostly stock light mods like intake etc. until the warrenty is up then strip her bare, roll cage, 6pt harness, race seats, sheet metal panels inside, Dokata digital guages, coils, and others i cant think of right now.
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As soon as i get it this is what will be done:

1-Gutted interior
2-Lightweight battery
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4-Racing Seats
5- light weight Rotors & pads + ss lines when available
6-2 sets of RPF1'S with federal racing tires or nt01's
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9-Debating on suspension i have to drive it first.

Car will be stored at my garage at a local track im not even going to get insurance or plates.

I wonder if my mods will void my warranty since the only performance mods will be a trd intake & exhaust??

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As soon as i get it this is what will be done:

1-Gutted interior
2-Lightweight battery
3-Custom Cage
4-Racing Seats
5- light weight Rotors & pads + ss lines when available
6-2 sets of RPF1'S with federal racing tires or nt01's
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9-Debating on suspension i have to drive it first.

Car will be stored at my garage at a local track im not even going to get insurance or plates.

I wonder if my mods will void my warranty since the only performance mods will be a trd intake & exhaust??
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:40 AM   #75
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Super curious to know if scion would void my warranty with these mods lol. Showing up with a broken race car on a trailer almost stock engine wise.



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As soon as i get it this is what will be done:

1-Gutted interior
2-Lightweight battery
3-Custom Cage
4-Racing Seats
5- light weight Rotors & pads + ss lines when available
6-2 sets of RPF1'S with federal racing tires or nt01's
7-Intake
8-Catback
9-Debating on suspension i have to drive it first.

Car will be stored at my garage at a local track im not even going to get insurance or plates.

I wonder if my mods will void my warranty since the only performance mods will be a trd intake & exhaust??
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:49 AM   #76
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I'm looking at renting a garage now to store my WRX and work on both cars. My hope was to find something I could rent or buy that also had a garage but that never materialized so I'm hoping to find a cheap garage rental. Unfortunately there don't seem to be too many options out there at the moment.
Not finding a decent garage/workshop that's not ridiculously expensive to rent has been my life for the past 3 months...
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9-Debating on suspension i have to drive it first.
Once you put race tires on it, the suspension will feel very soft for a track/race car. Especially with the stiffened chassis (via cage). You're going to need to up your spring rates, go with adjustable shocks (probably double-adjustable coil-overs) and then the tuning begins. And I don't mean "tuning" as in "adding parts". I mean "tuning" as in adjusting those added parts so that they actually make you go faster.
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I definitely recommend upping the ante with the coilovers. The JIC's aren't very good. If you really want to knock it out [wallet too] JRZ or Moton are the uber brands. With any luck Nitron will bring an offering to the FR-S/BRZ, but we'll have to wait and see; they don't rush to market usually. KW will be the quickest to market and they're great for the money.
Just to pile on, JIC is awful.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...3&postcount=29

No one should do business with them, ever, for any reason.

Especially when there are much closer and much better options. I'm on Motons at the moment but if I could do it again I'd get JRZs so that I could get local rebuilds...

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Just to pile on, JIC is awful.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...3&postcount=29

No one should do business with them, ever, for any reason.

Especially when there are much closer and much better options. I'm on Motons at the moment but if I could do it again I'd get JRZs so that I could get local rebuilds...

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I had custom JIC's (made for my car) and they were pretty great in terms of ride and track use.

Bit expensive though and yes customer service is meh.
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Are you getting a BRZ or FRS?

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It's on the list of potentials. Focus ST is in the lead, and the BRZ arguably makes less sense than my E36, but, yet, here I am

edit: as a DD. Not to replace the Evo.

kanundrum: I suspect if you were happy with JICs for track you would have been just as happy with BC Racing, K2, D-sport, etc. I'll stop ranting now...
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It's on the list of potentials. Focus ST is in the lead, and the BRZ arguably makes less sense than my E36, but, yet, here I am

edit: as a DD. Not to replace the Evo.

kanundrum: I suspect if you were happy with JICs for track you would have been just as happy with BC Racing, K2, D-sport, etc. I'll stop ranting now...

if you say they were that bad then maybe I had a different scenario or my situation was different as well but I thought they were excellent. I don't doubt they had issues but I had none of them in terms of the product anyway.

Never the less they will not be going on the FRS.
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It's on the list of potentials. Focus ST is in the lead, and the BRZ arguably makes less sense than my E36, but, yet, here I am

edit: as a DD. Not to replace the Evo.

kanundrum: I suspect if you were happy with JICs for track you would have been just as happy with BC Racing, K2, D-sport, etc. I'll stop ranting now...
Actually I was thinking about the Focus ST too even though it's such a different car. It was just a question of how much utility I want/need. After driving this car though, it doesn't matter...I'm going for it.
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If I had the disposable income, I'd buy two of these cars: An FR-S for track duty, and a BRZ Limited for street. I learned the hard way that race parts are for race cars, not street cars. My MR2 went from a fun street car to an almost-race car and is no longer fun on the street. As such I'll probably turn it into a full track car and keep the BRZ street friendly. I won't cry if I accidentally stuff my 25-yr-old Toyota into a tire barrier, whereas I might if I did it in my brand new Subaru that I need to get me to work the following day...

Any word on a Spec-86 series in the States? I guess it could take a while; they only just announced a spec racing series for the 350Z this year. I think it would be a lot of fun for people with the budget - something different than Spec Miata, and a little higher skill than the B Spec series (Mazda 2, Fiesta, Fit).
i guess i feel totally different about my MR2 than you do about yours. i'd be gutted if i smashed it into a wall because they're getting harder and harder to come by, especially clean ones. at the same time, the monetary loss from smashing up an FRS would be larger...

does anyone know much about track day insurance? i witnessed a GT3RS get loose and smash the entire left side of the car into some armco and the driver didn't seem too upset about it. i can only assume he either had more money than we gave him credit for, or he had some kind of track day insurance.
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i guess i feel totally different about my MR2 than you do about yours. i'd be gutted if i smashed it into a wall because they're getting harder and harder to come by, especially clean ones. at the same time, the monetary loss from smashing up an FRS would be larger...

does anyone know much about track day insurance? i witnessed a GT3RS get loose and smash the entire left side of the car into some armco and the driver didn't seem too upset about it. i can only assume he either had more money than we gave him credit for, or he had some kind of track day insurance.
I'm not saying I'd be thrilled it were to happen, but I have a shed full of red MR2 body panels waiting to get swapped over if need be.

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I'm not saying I'd be thrilled it were to happen, but I have a shed full of red MR2 body panels waiting to get swapped over if need be.

http://ontrackinsurance.com/index.aspx

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what is this "internment" of which you speak????

looks like a pretty good deal. does anyone have any experience with that sort of insurance? it would drive the cost of track days up a little bit, but if i were running at a "dangerous" track, seems like it would be worth it...

and i understand what you mean. i guess the way i look at it isn't so much the monetary value of the car, but more how replaceable it is. call me sentimental.
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SW20's are rarer than AW11's, too. I know it wouldn't be easy to find a replacement AW11 hardtop, but just the same, if I had to repair or replace anything it wouldn't be the end of the world. I've had 7 MR2's since 2005; the only ones I would've been upset about crashing would've been the '89 Ice Blue Pearl Supercharged and the '94 Super Red II Turbo, because they're extremely rare in the U.S. What I wouldn't give to have either one of those back in my garage!!
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Is anyone buying this car or well putting a deposit on this car with the following in Mind?

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These are just my goals just wondering if anyone else is doing it this properly as the car is meant to be treated!
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