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Old 05-07-2012, 10:47 AM   #35
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I preordered a black MT premium 2 weeks ago from a Beechmont Subaru in Cincinnati, OH. This week they had a dark grey metallic 6MT limited at a different nearby dealership, Joseph Subaru in Florence, KY. Up until now I had never laid my eyes on the beast. They wouldn't let me test drive it, but I got to sit in it, start it, rev it, etc. Pictures simply do not to the car justice. You have to see it in person.

Humble first impressions:

Exterior: Sex
Interior: Sex
Exhaust note: Sex
Shifter: Sex
Audio System: Sex

Seriously though, I had my doubts about the car after reading the negative reviews. Overall size of the car, quality of interior, sound system, fit and finish, etc. After being in the car myself, these concerns are all gone. At first impression, the car is small - but not too small. Think Civic coupe, only it sits much lower. The car is very spacious on the inside. There is plenty of headroom and you don't feel cramped at all (as long as you're not in the back seat). The interior quality is very nice. For those reviewers upset with it, or those that think it is not up to snuff, you must be comparing it to BMWs and the like. I was just in a 2012 SI and the interior build quality was very similar. For the price of the car the interior is very well matched. The steering wheel felt fantastic - the thickness was great and I could tell that while driving it would offer great control.

I briefly tried the audio and it sounded very good as well. The shifter moves soundly and has a short throw. It felt very well made. The trunk was smaller, but I expected that. Maybe a little smaller than I imagined, but its not terrible. All of the doors/hood/trunk felt solid upon opening and closing. It's no luxury car, but you're not paying for one. The hood was incredibly light.

The exhaust.... oh, the exhaust. It sounded amazing. I had the door open while i was reving it, and the warble of the exhaust sounded great. I liken the exhaust note/engine growl to a crowd of pissed off demons eager to eat the bones of unsuspecting toddlers. It's hungry.

Only thing left now is to take delivery of mine and drive it for real! I can't wait.
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Old 05-07-2012, 11:11 AM   #36
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I have a DGM WRX which should be the exact same color as on the BRZ. You can definitely see the metal flake in the paint and the car looks lighter or darker depending on lighting.

Overall, I love it and think it's the best looking color on the current gen WRX, but I prefer a lighter paint on the BRZ. IMO, I feel the DGM hides the lines of the BRZ too much, which is why I went with SSM. The WRX has much more aggressive and exaggerated lines, so they stick out regardless of color. Either way, I think you guys that ordered DGM will love it and it's incredibly easy to keep clean and hides scratches really well.
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:19 PM   #37
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Only the FR-S comes with a 300W system. The BRZ is 196W.

I don't care! I have sealed 800W Kenwood amp sitting in the garage, and I'll replace BRZ speakers as soon as I confirm measurements. No sub, just clean sound all around for me.
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:32 PM   #38
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I don't care! I have sealed 800W Kenwood amp sitting in the garage, and I'll replace BRZ speakers as soon as I confirm measurements. No sub, just clean sound all around for me.
thats what i did the day i bought my celica, went with sony components all around, no crackle on the highest volume setting :P good bass too
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Only the FR-S comes with a 300W system. The BRZ is 196W.
Wait really? How did I miss that? The higher end Subaru has a crappier sound system?
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Wait really? How did I miss that? The higher end Subaru has a crappier sound system?
Relax. Those 300W are 120W from the head unit + 180W from an amp. What a joke.
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Old 05-08-2012, 12:11 AM   #41
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Wait really? How did I miss that? The higher end Subaru has a crappier sound system?
It's not all about power you know. The Subaru head unit appears vastly superior to the base Scion unit.
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I'm not concerned so much about the head unit as I am the actual speaker components. I'm not very knowledgeable about stereo stuff, so someone will have to enlighten me. Do the cars both have the same speakers? Will the Subaru sound as good as the Scion?
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I ordered mine in DGM, Premium 6MT w/spoiler, and after seeing those pics of the DGM, I am VERY glad I made that choice! My local dealer only had a silver one in the showroom when I made my order, so I picked the color blind for the most part.
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It's not all about power you know. The Subaru head unit appears vastly superior to the base Scion unit.
Oh god, not this again! It's enough we have to deal with it arguing over the chassis and drivetrain... SHEESH!
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I had typed up a response based on my electrical engineering degree but I know it will set off a whole frs vs BRZ argument so I won't even bother.

Long story short: they will sound the same
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I ordered mine in DGM, Premium 6MT w/spoiler, and after seeing those pics of the DGM, I am VERY glad I made that choice! My local dealer only had a silver one in the showroom when I made my order, so I picked the color blind for the most part.
Haha, you ordered the same car as me (except the spoiler) and you live 5 min away (I am in San Mateo).
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Haha, you ordered the same car as me (except the spoiler) and you live 5 min away (I am in San Mateo).
there will be at least 20-25 DGM BRZ in the area.

DGM here too.
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I'm not concerned so much about the head unit as I am the actual speaker components. I'm not very knowledgeable about stereo stuff, so someone will have to enlighten me. Do the cars both have the same speakers? Will the Subaru sound as good as the Scion?
They do use same woofers size-wise, so should be the same speakers. But remember, Subaru always puts crappy speakers even with Premium sound. Literally, 1 inch neodymium magnets, very lightweight. In return, they are very sensitive, designed to output higher acoustic dBA with less power.

Look, the ones in the middle are Subaru speakers, vs aftermarket:


Soo, even with 4x50 Watt MOSFET amp Pioner unit in BRZ (which is on par with aftermarket, frankly), I plan to replace speakers with Polk (most likely) or better + amp to drive true components. Subaru 'components' usually use 1st-order high pass passive filters for tweeters (I expect similar in BRZ/FR-S, even with additional mid-'speaker'). I'll be replacing those with active filters at the line-output prior to amp. Thats what works for me.

Without the amp, you can still an drive true component speakers, but you need to pay attention to its sensitivity/efficiency. 91 dBA or better is what you want. These, for example, are good speakers to set the front stage with little money:
Amazon.com: Polk Audio DB6501 6.5-Inch 2-Way Component System (Pair, Silver): Car Electronics Amazon.com: Polk Audio DB6501 6.5-Inch 2-Way Component System (Pair, Silver): Car Electronics

Also, little RAAMatig goes a long way: http://www.raamaudio.com/products/RAAMmat-BXT-II.html and this: http://www.raamaudio.com/products/En...and-Stick.html

There is a discount for members of Subaru Forester club. You may want to review Sea-Scooby's threads, which are plenty descriptive on sound setups, including closed enclosure subs: http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulle...resters-29648/
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They do use same woofers size-wise, so should be the same speakers. But remember, Subaru always puts crappy speakers even with Premium sound. Literally, 1 inch neodymium magnets, very lightweight. In return, they are very sensitive, designed to output higher acoustic dBA with less power.

Look, the ones in the middle are Subaru speakers, vs aftermarket:


Soo, even with 4x50 Watt MOSFET amp Pioner unit in BRZ (which is on par with aftermarket, frankly), I plan to replace speakers with Polk (most likely) or better + amp to drive true components. Subaru 'components' usually use 1st-order high pass passive filters for tweeters (I expect similar in BRZ/FR-S, even with additional mid-'speaker'). I'll be replacing those with active filters at the line-output prior to amp. Thats what works for me.

Without the amp, you can still an drive true component speakers, but you need to pay attention to its sensitivity/efficiency. 91 dBA or better is what you want. These, for example, are good speakers to set the front stage with little money: Amazon.com: Polk Audio DB6501 6.5-Inch 2-Way Component System (Pair, Silver): Car Electronics

Also, little RAAMatig goes a long way: http://www.raamaudio.com/products/RAAMmat-BXT-II.html and this: http://www.raamaudio.com/products/En...and-Stick.html

There is a discount for members of Subaru Forester club. You may want to review Sea-Scooby's threads, which are plenty descriptive on sound setups, including closed enclosure subs: http://www.subaruforester.org/vbulle...resters-29648/
Thank you for the very informative post. Just added those speakers to my wish list on amazon, lol. They're plug and play right? If the stock speakers don't impress me, this will probably be my first mod.
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Thank you for the very informative post. Just added those speakers to my wish list on amazon, lol. They're plug and play right? If the stock speakers don't impress me, this will probably be my first mod.
If door speakers are 6.5" and do not require spacers, swap should be straight. I'd still add a little sound deadening material for lower mids quality.

I have no idea yet how dash speakers are mounted. If its like in other cars I used to have, it will be PITA to remove those if they don't use clippers. At the factory they put in the dash first, mount speakers and than glue the windshield in. Last resort will be to leave original twitters-high-mids, then, tune dash speakers to play everything above 5-6 kHz with pre-amp crossover.

I don't have a plan yet for rear speakers - it will depend on available space. I like my backstage to act as mid bass, with 8 inch speakers and sometimes add directional tweeters in the rear to give overall sound some space and clarity. But this will be hard to pull off in BRZ, and I'll have to settle for an upgraded 4" speakers. We'll see when the car finally gets here. Maybe by that time someone with FR-S or East Coast BRZ will get to it faster than I'll get a chance and we'll have more info.

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I have no idea yet how dash speakers are mounted. If its like in other cars I used to have, it will be PITA to remove those if they don't use clippers. At the factory they put in the dash first, mount speakers and than glue the windshield in. Last resort will be to leave original twitters-high-mids, then, tune dash speakers to play everything above 5-6 kHz with pre-amp crossover.
I hope you are wrong about this because it'll be an expensive & time consuming bitch if people want to replace them with higher end components.

I wanna run some high end fronts like Audison, Hertz, Rainbow, etc, if the stock system isn't adequate enough for my taste.
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