2013 Scion FR-S: A New Hope? - Ignition Episode 14

[DeepHunta]

I DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!! And to think I was willing to overlook this car 4 months ago. I wasn't even sure I wanted this car when I pre-ordered it in March. But now....now...omg! I'm like a 12 yr old who just found his first dirty magazine after watching this. This car will seriously be the benchmark for any sports car under $30K.

Can I drive it yet!? Is it June yet!?

[Bristecom]

Originally Posted by koyv90

America's roads and infrastructure suck sadly. We need better roads .

Considering how many there are, they aren't that bad. But I'm still hoping for a bunch of private roads with no speed limits.

[bestwheelbase]

Originally Posted by Hanzo

Yeah maybe down the road they'll have leather wrapped trim replacements...

Maybe we can get LeatherZ to take an interest in the blossoming FRS/BRZ community. They do great work, and affordable too.

[RWDJunkie]

Originally Posted by SeaWall

the headlights is still ugly

While I like the BRZ's lights, I might be the only one who likes the FR-S' lights over the LED equipped 86's.

Originally Posted by Rockstar

The more reviews I see the harder it is to make the choices. Brand, colour, accessories and possible mods (that don't ruin the car).

The more I see, hear, and read about this car, the more I think that the only upgrade I'm interested in is a change of wheels. I want to find some better looking wheels that won't offset the weight and handling of the vehicle.

Besides that it sounds like this car really is a driver's wet dream -- an affordable, rwd car that's genuinely fun to drive on the street or track in its bone stock form.

That review made me so happy.

[Staticfrost]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Here's the dash look


Zoomed in more


If you still can't see the "T"... there's a problem with your eyes

i need my eyes checked!!!!! Cause that isn't a T that looks like triangles rofl!

[Hanzo]

Originally Posted by bestwheelbase

Maybe we can get LeatherZ to take an interest in the blossoming FRS/BRZ community. They do great work, and affordable too.

As long as they do good work price is not so much of an issue.

[Hanzo]

Originally Posted by Staticfrost

i need my eyes checked!!!!! Cause that isn't a T that looks like triangles rofl!

It's a stylized "T".

[pastuch]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

But that's your opinion. Some people will find the FR-S not all that fun especially on regular roads where I am sure the cars you drove felt boring there as well.

The Miata and S2000 are ALWAYS fun. All the time. Ask any owner.... unanimous praise!

[pastuch]

Originally Posted by koyv90

America's roads and infrastructure suck sadly. We need better roads .

Canadians talk about how high quality US roads are compared to ours on a daily basis. 30 million people in a much larger country, with a much harsher freeze/thaw = worst roads on earth.

[pastuch]

Originally Posted by bimmerboy

are you serious?

RX-8, EVO, STi, GTi, Miata, are all fun sporty cars, just to name a few. If you don't think any car besides the miata is fun, why don't you drive a miata? And yes- I have driven all of them (STi and EVO were '07 and '06 models though). Each car is unique and has its pros/cons, but each car is def. fun and sporty in its own way.

There is a large difference between a sporty car, a sports car, and a track-ready car....

You're entitled to your own opinion but I really find it hard to believe you can't have fun in any car besides a miata...In fact, I would argue we are in a golden-era of automobiles. As enthusiasts we have such a wide variety of sporty, reliable, and efficient cars, the BRZ/FR-S just takes this to the nth degree AND comes in at a very low price-point...

I LOVED the RX-8 but it's no longer in production. The STI and GTI are kind of fun but not RWD. EVOs are so outrageously expensive in Canada that no one buys them.

[tripjammer]

I just saw an EVO MR in the parking garage? Why is this car so expensive? It looks cheap.

The RX-8 may have been a fun car but it was kinda ugly, that 2nd door behind the front doors ruined the design. This is not sporty!!!



Mazda did not have to kill Rx8, just just had to have the balls to redesign it and make the car better. The Mazda Speed 3 is butt ugly in all respects too!


The only thing holding back the FR-S is the butt ugly head unit and the ugly headlights, both of these can be fixed. Headlights not so easy, but you get the point.





A pioneer App Radio 2 is going to look nice in that fake T carbon fiber dash, and its going to be an easy plug and play, even the voice control is going to work flawlessly.



I am glad Scion included a built in mic in the headliner!

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by Hanzo

It's a stylized "T".

made of triangles!

[AeroWRX]

Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

91.15 lap time 1:31.15

and he was f-cking around... faster than an evo x pretty good....

BMW M5 1:30.40
Porsche 911 Turbo 1:30.69
Ford Mustang V6 1:30.90
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X SE 1:31.40
Ford GT 1:31.57


http://www.fastestlaps.com/laptimes/4d90aa2aa585d.html

word

[Staticfrost]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

made of triangles!

Glade I am not the only one seeing triangles!

[Deslock]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

Exactly!!! He was reviewing a couple other cars like the mini cooper coupe and a 3.8 Track GC and loved both of them. He even said even though the 2013 3.8 Track has more understeer it was so fun to drive that he give it a A+ in that area. Take everything you hear with a grain of salt.

I haven't seen his MCS review, but it's FWD (Carlos Lago spent a lot of time focusing on RWD in both the GC-3.8-track-edition and FRS reviews). The GC-3.8-track-edition costs $9k (36%) more than the FRS, so it doesn't really apply to his comment about wanting an inexpensive sporty coupe.

But since you brought up his GC-3.8-track-edition review, it's worth noting that though he loved how it enters slides so easily and is controllable and fun to drift, he also had quite a bit to complain about. He disliked that it "understeers no matter what you do" and said the shifter is rubbery (he gave driver inputs -steering, shifter, and pedals- a C+ as a whole). He summarized the car as almost there, getting 90% of the enthusiast driver formula right, but needing tweaks like a revised suspension and new shifter. His conclusion was very reserved, with him saying he didn't want to come off as disappointed because he's happy that in this day and age you can buy a MT RWD car. That's hardly a ringing endorsement.

[bimmerboy]

Originally Posted by pastuch

I LOVED the RX-8 but it's no longer in production. The STI and GTI are kind of fun but not RWD. EVOs are so outrageously expensive in Canada that no one buys them.

Why not look for a used rx-8?? Those things depreciate like its their job!

Curious on your thoughts on the S2000. To me the brz/fr-s remind me a lot of this car, minus the whole convertible deal.. Love that 2.0 9k redline engine + chasis

[bimmerboy]

Those lap times do not look right. There is simply no way a v6 mustang can beat a ford GT! Somethings up here... I'm thinking these are 2 different tracks.

Guys- lets use our common sense here....

[Spaceywilly]

Originally Posted by bimmerboy

Those lap times do not look right. There is simply no way a v6 mustang can beat a ford GT! Somethings up here... I'm thinking these are 2 different tracks.

Guys- lets use our common sense here....

Different driver...

also one of the comments says the lap time of the Ford Gt was on oppposite direction.

At the end of the day that site is not very reliable for comparing lap times.