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Old 04-24-2012, 11:21 PM   #1
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Jalopnik FR-S First Drive

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This FR-S has the potential to bring the concept of "fun to drive" back to a whole new generation.
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this stuck out. i believe this is why we'll see some reviewers not like the car very much. not all automotive journalists have the same level of driving skill. i can't wait to get my hands on one!

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I was able to recover quickly, but it's a good reminder that, with all the electronic nannies off, you're dealing with a chassis that has the capacity to both reward talent and punish the idiot, if you're not careful.
almost reminds me of a particular early-90s sports car from toyota...
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this stuck out. i believe this is why we'll see some reviewers not like the car very much. not all automotive journalists have the same level of driving skill. i can't wait to get my hands on one!



almost reminds me of a particular early-90s sports car from toyota...
The S-dub snaps at your slightest mistake though with little to no forgiveness. At least the FR-S seems to give some warning/leeway as you linearly approach its limits. People will wreck the FR-S but not as badly as that other car I hope.
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The S-dub snaps at your slightest mistake though with little to no forgiveness. At least the FR-S seems to give some warning/leeway as you linearly approach its limits. People will wreck the FR-S but not as badly as that other car I hope.
This is my opinion here, but when I'm autox'ing or tracking the FR-S, you gotta be so dumb not to feel what you're doing wrong. Seriously, car is smacking you back of your head say "WTF?!?!" and when you're doing things right, car is telling you "You're the man!"

But recent new sports car that came out automatically fixes those driver mistakes that, driver assume that FR-S will do the same. That's where review differs. Some driver's listen to the car and some driver's don't.
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you gotta be so dumb not to feel what you're doing wrong. Seriously, car is smacking you back of your head say "WTF?!?!" and when you're doing things right, car is telling you "You're the man!"
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@Guff I totally saw your comment on this article.
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Hah!



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think of this as a 2-seater with provisions for an occasional friend sideways or a pair of friendly amputees
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This is my opinion here, but when I'm autox'ing or tracking the FR-S, you gotta be so dumb not to feel what you're doing wrong. Seriously, car is smacking you back of your head say "WTF?!?!" and when you're doing things right, car is telling you "You're the man!"

But recent new sports car that came out automatically fixes those driver mistakes that, driver assume that FR-S will do the same. That's where review differs. Some driver's listen to the car and some driver's don't.
Do you mean the tachometer? Cuz I never looked at mine in my Civic. But mostly, cuz it didn't have one :P
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@Guff I totally saw your comment on this article.
Who is Xander?!?!?!? He seems like he should be a BRZer!! Every time there is a Zx6 article, he is always convincing people to love the car!


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"While there was certainly plenty of the usual marketing-speak horseshit flying around (overuse of the word "passion", and one guy who said FR-S stands for "Friggin Really Sweet." Puke.) the truth actually seems to be that Toyota genuinely wanted to build a real sports car."

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Who is Xander?!?!?!? He seems like he should be a BRZer!! Every time there is a Zx6 article, he is always convincing people to love the car!
is Zx6 a chassis code or something? I see some people referring to the BRZ of FR-S with it but I just think of the Kawasaki sportbike instead.
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Do you mean the tachometer? Cuz I never looked at mine in my Civic. But mostly, cuz it didn't have one :P
No, what I mean is when you drive this car, you can feel you're making mistakes. Overspeeding into the corner. Understeer, oversteer, every tiny things. Just recent sports cars, the computer fix the driver's mistakes... vs FRS don't fix it, but instead, it tells you & make you fix it yourself.
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is Zx6 a chassis code or something? I see some people referring to the BRZ of FR-S with it but I just think of the Kawasaki sportbike instead.
FRS = ZC6
BRZ = ZN6
Both = Zx6

... Or was FRS was ZN6?
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is Zx6 a chassis code or something? I see some people referring to the BRZ of FR-S with it but I just think of the Kawasaki sportbike instead.
See below.

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Nope it was backwards, lol.

ZN6 = 86/GT86/FR-S
ZC6 = BRZ

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Who is Xander?!?!?!? He seems like he should be a BRZer!! Every time there is a Zx6 article, he is always convincing people to love the car!


Is it you, Orb?
No I'm not Xander, but he's rather pro-Subaru from what I've seen of his comments on various articles on Jalopnik. I tend to agree with the things he says.
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No I'm not Xander, but he's rather pro-Subaru from what I've seen of his comments on various articles on Jalopnik. I tend to agree with the things he says.
We must find him!!!
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"the e-brake is right nearby, with a surprisingly big handle. This is a pretty big clue that Scion is expecting these to be popular drifting machines."

Clearly, Subaru was also thinking drifting for the 2012 Impreza.
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