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As a CARB (California Air Research Board) tune, we have no legal right to address, assist or tamper with this tune for any reason what so ever. If we did or anyone for that matter we would be heavily fined for it. By the way, one legal aspect of a CARB tune is that it needs to be "locked". Cheers, William Knose Delicious Tuning |
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what's the history behind these? interesting comparo. was starting to think jackson racing might be better for track, i'm between 4000-7500 rpm. on other dynos jackson seems better when up here - although this looks like a pretty solid innovate performance if this is same dyno, day, diff cars, etc.
some have noted heat soaking issues on track for the innovate, even intercooled. is this only after 20 minutes though? is it as bad with e85 or does the problem go away? what about meth injection? after all is said and done in a month i think i'll have a pretty prepped car to drop on the stage 2 intercooled system and have a good time. |
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I'm assuming it to be tune related so I'm going to switch to their custom tune where I can at least get support if the problem persists. I understand raising the idle setting may help, @whataboutbob said his is set to like 1100 rpm on his custom tune. -mk |
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08-18-2014, 03:46 PM | #5201 | |
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We found that the elbows after installation swell and shrink from heat. They shrink just enough to cause a fairly large vacuum leak on the back of the charger. So then you need to re-tighten them and they are usually fine from then on. That is what we have seen with regards to poor idle and a host of other complaints. If this is all taken care of then we ask what additional parts are being run on the vehicle as we have seen lightened pulleys, flywheels, cause more problems. Also Auto's with the AC on and Lights on definitely have a dip to them. Something we have raised the idle on for custom tunes, as bob stated. The original CARB tune has a LOT less options available at the time for tuning, and since then quite a few more tables have been added to take care of idle a bit more. Like we stated before once that tune is set in place you can not change it. Definitely a draw back to the CARB tunes. Cheers, William Knose Delicious Tuning |
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Does that means that we would have to incur in the additional cost of a custom tune to fix these issues, even if we purchased the CARB tune?
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But the main difference will be when upgrading, as there are no real options for the Jackson Racing kit, where as the Innovate Kit has a host of upgrades which help make quite a bit more power and it really helps the low end torque drastically. There is some heat soak on the track when non-intercooled and when going intercoooled there are some heat soak but not nearly as much. The internal core will drops temps to well above ambient but a lot cooler then a non-intercooled setup. So even though there may be some heat soak I do not expect much. On E85 this would just cool everything down drastically and offer great performance consistency at the track. I personally do not like any sort of tuning for Meth Injection. No matter what you do I have never seen these systems run consistently. The flows change (not much), but enough to cause the tunes to be off all the time. Just a royal pain to tune, I will not tune for them them and do not recommend for more than just a safety margin, not tuning. Cheers, William Knose Delicious Tuning |
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Old install with new idle problem actually.. @Boofneenee
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I would suggest checking for vacuum leaks. Cheers, William Knose Delicious Tuning |
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To help out these guys just a little further..is their a parameter (I.e AFR, engine load) that one with a tune can review of their car to sort of hone in on the problem? With. Vacuum leak I would imagine a persons AFRs would be wacky (no expert here.. You are). Would it be possible for then to simply run a log and post for us to review?
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i know you like the airaid - any comments on the snorkel removal from you or the group? i left mine in. i am wondering on track with the engine bay full of heat if it is better to leave the snorkel on or not. |
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I would imagine (just guessing) that constantly moving on the track would not have too much of an impact on removing the snorkel. Where as auto-cross or drag would be a trade off, hot air for a couple seconds versus top end power. Quote:
Also you can check your vacuum (manifold pressure) you are pulling at idle. You should be around 4-5 PSI at idle under absolute manifold pressure or -10 PSI or 20 inHg. If you are less then this by a couple less then this, there is a good chance you have a vacuum leak also. Cheers, William Knose Delicious Tuning |
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