Speedhunters - TRD TUNES THE 86

[tripjammer]

And some people were saying 18 inch rims were too big...now way..its about perfect. I think even 19 inch rims will fit, but 18 is the sweet spot.

[Alfie]

I think 17 inchers will be the sweet spot, 18 and 19 will be pushing your comfort and will need a more serious drop to look right-
remember this car is pretty small!

I like the door strikes and nothing else!
You'd think with this little motor TRD would make a sick SINGLE exhaust-
not that heavy monster!

[AshWilliams]

Originally Posted by jkonquer

you don't want to drop the car anymore than the roll center allows you to. suspension on cars are not designed to be "dropped". anything more than 2" or more (depending on the car) can significantly harm the handling and suspension dynamics hence causing more body rolls and etc.

on the side note; definitely getting that rear lip wing on my BRZ, everything else seem so tacky and "rice"

I want to see track times for cars with all the TRD crap on them and if they're noticeably less, or is it all overpriced plastic.

I am no stranger to the TRD sticker effect on Tacos and how calling Bilstein shocks, a Pep Boys cosmetic chin guard, TRD air filter, stickers here and there a "TRD tuned suspension package" suddenly adds 3k to the price.

Also, lowering a car usually only adds cosmetic effect. Engineers have already optimized the suspension for the roll center, and messing with that just makes for amusing antics on the track.

If anything I'd like to see the clowned out "JDM Dureefto" cars take a spin against a bare bones stocker and see how badly they do.

[Spaceywilly]

Originally Posted by AshWilliams

I want to see track times for cars with all the TRD crap on them and if they're noticeably less, or is it all overpriced plastic.

I am no stranger to the TRD sticker effect on Tacos and how calling Bilstein shocks, a Pep Boys cosmetic chin guard, TRD air filter, stickers here and there a "TRD tuned suspension package" suddenly adds 3k to the price.

Also, lowering a car usually only adds cosmetic effect. Engineers have already optimized the suspension for the roll center, and messing with that just makes for amusing antics on the track.

If anything I'd like to see the clowned out "JDM Dureefto" cars take a spin against a bare bones stocker and see how badly they do.

FTA:

The stock dampers have been replaced with adjustable TRD items that, thanks to lower and firmer springs drop the car by 15 mm, an already evident improvement on the normal ride height. Along with stiffer front and rear anti-roll bars the whole suspension has been fine-tuned to offer more precise handling and dig deeper into the capabilities of the brilliant chassis. The TRD guys let me take the 86 out onto the handling course that was set up and I was literally blown away by the changes these seemingly simple modifications make. Compared to the stock 86 the TRD was very flat through the turns and had a much more predictable and smoother brake away point when the tires lost grip and the rear end broke loose. I was also able to carry a good 10-15% more speed through the tight second-gear slalom section…

[supramaster12]

i tought you were supposed to ask if you are 18 or older before you show all this sexyness on the internet lol. if that strut bar is real carbon fiber wich i highly doubt, its gonna cost an arm and a leg cause toyota parts are made with gold and other rare minerals thats why they cost so much.

[subatoy]

fake carbon fiber?!!!!! SERIOUSLY!

[cyde01]

if they made a hatch out of carbon fiber and lexan glass and used these door stabilizers on the hatch then that would eliminate the whole hatchback decreases stiffness/increases weight problem.

[jkonquer]

Originally Posted by luxmn

you know they designed the car themselves right? thats the whole point of buying from TRD instead of say Greddy.

Negatory, trd springs are designed by eibach and restamped trd.

[Guff]

Originally Posted by supramaster12

i tought you were supposed to ask if you are 18 or older before you show all this sexyness on the internet lol. if that strut bar is real carbon fiber wich i highly doubt, its gonna cost an arm and a leg cause toyota parts are made with gold and other rare minerals thats why they cost so much.

It is real carbon fibre (perhaps even CFRP), why would you think otherwise lol. It's not like TRD parts are cheap...

[jkonquer]

Originally Posted by AshWilliams

I want to see track times for cars with all the TRD crap on them and if they're noticeably less, or is it all overpriced plastic.

I am no stranger to the TRD sticker effect on Tacos and how calling Bilstein shocks, a Pep Boys cosmetic chin guard, TRD air filter, stickers here and there a "TRD tuned suspension package" suddenly adds 3k to the price.

Also, lowering a car usually only adds cosmetic effect. Engineers have already optimized the suspension for the roll center, and messing with that just makes for amusing antics on the track.

If anything I'd like to see the clowned out "JDM Dureefto" cars take a spin against a bare bones stocker and see how badly they do.

Exactly my point. One good example is that on one of those japanese show, raced a stock sti impreza vs tuned sti with coilovers, and stock sti was able to beat the "tuned" sti flat out. That does to show that not-engineered parts are garbage.

[SVTSHC]

I wonder how many colors those calipers will be offered in... would be sick if you could get them in black.

[quik1987]

Originally Posted by jkonquer

Negatory, trd springs are designed by eibach and restamped trd.

JDM TRD =/= USDM TRD

[armythug]

Originally Posted by Alfie

I think 17 inchers will be the sweet spot, 18 and 19 will be pushing your comfort and will need a more serious drop to look right-
remember this car is pretty small!

I like the door strikes and nothing else!
You'd think with this little motor TRD would make a sick SINGLE exhaust-
not that heavy monster!

I have to agree with the single exhaust. Maybe they didn't do it because of how low the car sits? I wonder how an angled cannon would look on it. Maybe it would look tacky on the 86 but on some cars it looks hot.

[luxmn]

Originally Posted by jkonquer

Negatory, trd springs are designed by eibach and restamped trd.

i would pretend like you know this as a "fact". even then, you think Toyota would just adopt a product to sell as a non-engineered part? please. they must have had very specific parameters to select a product to adopt (assuming eibach really makes these).

i aint vow for it, ill test drive these springs before i folk 2-3k out for them there's no doubt about that but to say that a giant like Toyota can't engineer a damn set of lowering springs worth the money is a fking insult. the physic of lowering the center of gravity doesn't change from car to car, its the matter of knowing the optimum set of values and who know that better than the one who designs the car? the stock springs may not be the optimum ones the cost of the car could easily forces compromises.

and really such statement "a stock STI beats a "tuned" STI" therefore "not-engineered parts are garbage" doesn't make sense on so many levels.

[Turbowned]

Originally Posted by jkonquer

Negatory, trd springs are designed by eibach and restamped trd.

TRD USA parts are restamped aftermarket parts. TRD Japan parts (with the exception of the Bilstein dampers) are developed in-house. Let's not confuse the two, please!

This isn't a Scion tC, guys. TRD put the work in on these parts. We'll be lucky if any of that stuff even makes it over here through Toyota dealers; most of it will probably have to be imported.

[jkonquer]

Originally Posted by luxmn

i would pretend like you know this as a "fact". even then, you think Toyota would just adopt a product to sell as a non-engineered part? please. they must have had very specific parameters to select a product to adopt (assuming eibach really makes these).

i aint vow for it, ill test drive these springs before i folk 2-3k out for them there's no doubt about that but to say that a giant like Toyota can't engineer a damn set of lowering springs worth the money is a fking insult. the physic of lowering the center of gravity doesn't change from car to car, its the matter of knowing the optimum set of values and who know that better than the one who designs the car? the stock springs may not be the optimum ones the cost of the car could easily forces compromises.

and really such statement "a stock STI beats a "tuned" STI" therefore "not-engineered parts are garbage" doesn't make sense on so many levels.

I dont even know what you are arguing about,
I was pointing out the fact that many of the trd parts are restamped or designed by different company.
2. I was pointing out fact that the reason why trd went such a mild drop is to keep the suspension dynamics of the vehicle. So i wasnt arguing there,
3 many aftermarket companies just slam the car and add intake and etc hoping it will perform. And it just doesnt work like that. Many cars de-perform due to aftermarket parts.

[zoomzoomers]

Quick question. What do those door stabilizers do? Their purpose? Does the car come with creeky doors???

[Spaceywilly]

Originally Posted by zoomzoomers

Quick question. What do those door stabilizers do? Their purpose? Does the car come with creeky doors???

FTA

But it was actually the door stabilizer that impressed me the most. It’s a very simple upgrade, so simple that most would have probably never though about it. The idea behind it is to use the door as a stiffening implement, so that once it closers it slides this spring-loaded metal section behind the lock grab against this teflon-like plastic part on the door itself. This pushes the door slightly against its hinges further stiffening up the chassis. The result is a better and more direct steering feel though the corners. Every little helps as they say, and TRD have actually patented this little gadget.

[zoomzoomers]

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly

FTA

for the info. I guess it will have to go on the list then.

[D4S]

A blacked out 86? Yes, please. The quad exhaust looks amazing, it completes the wide look of the car. Nice body kit, brakes, and wheels. I can't think of any setup that would look nicer as far as color schemes go. Maybe red on black?

[Haoun]

It just Looks so much nice, in photos.
Really it is heart fetching car.
I really like it.
Great sharing.
Thanks for sharing this...Dude

[SVTSHC]

Originally Posted by quik1987

I wonder why no sports seats

This. I also wonder if that'll be offered for the American TRD installed list. Cause I def want them.