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Old 04-07-2012, 09:18 PM   #23
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Except for HKS. They kept the FA20 & slap on SC
But its still probably in developmental stages, and it doesnt make neck snapping power compared to a swap.
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Old 04-07-2012, 11:55 PM   #24
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But its still probably in developmental stages, and it doesnt make neck snapping power compared to a swap.
It's on the development, so we can't state that it does or it doesn't. NOB is expecting/looking around 500~600whp out from his GT86
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Old 04-08-2012, 12:41 AM   #25
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wrong direction

These engine swaps for more power just confuse me. Every one praises the car for its great handling, mainly due to the low COG and minimal body roll. Seems to me that taking the engine out that the car was designed around is just going the opposite way. I am all for bumping up the output, but I would be much more interested in doing it with the original engine.
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These engine swaps for more power just confuse me. Every one praises the car for its great handling, mainly due to the low COG and minimal body roll. Seems to me that taking the engine out that the car was designed around is just going the opposite way. I am all for bumping up the output, but I would be much more interested in doing it with the original engine.
I totally agree with you. they are just messing the balance of the car. I guess since they havent done much R&D on the motor. they went with a swap where theyre sure they will get he power they need.
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I would be wary of a kit that's been rushed out the door like this.
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The reason they are doing swaps right now is that there isnt enough time to do R&D/Testing on modified versions of the new engine. Its not even available yet to most of the public... Wait a year and there will be dozens of turbo kits available assuming there is a way to tune it on the stock ECU.
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This is where I would say "that's too much power for my needs".

That's too much power for my needs.
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These engine swaps for more power just confuse me. Every one praises the car for its great handling, mainly due to the low COG and minimal body roll. Seems to me that taking the engine out that the car was designed around is just going the opposite way. I am all for bumping up the output, but I would be much more interested in doing it with the original engine.

everyone modify their good handling cars for for more powers. its a TUner's World?

also this company is a racing/tuning company they gonna provide something reliable and proven for this year races. Also its more economical to to swap, to develop the engine right now.
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The challenge will be getting more power out of the boxer without sacrificing reliability.
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Eh, it's easier to get more power than great handling.
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looks very nice!
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This is where I would say "that's too much power for my needs".

That's too much power for my needs.
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2.6-litre Cosworth crate engine with turbo only making 335? Did I miss something?
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2.6-litre Cosworth crate engine with turbo only making 335? Did I miss something?

Yeah, its clearly not powerful enough.

Not even worth a swap.....
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2.6-litre Cosworth crate engine with turbo only making 335? Did I miss something?
very conservative tune perhaps
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Yeah, it does say preliminary and it's nice to know there is something in develpment but i probably would have held on to those numbers till I had something a little more wowing. I would imagine something like that could net some very imressive numbers.
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I know I'd be interested but I also know what those engines cost and I'd never be THAT interested. At that point I'd start comparing the cost of more powerful cars straight from their factories, w/ warranties and better re-sale value.
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The challenge will be getting more power out of the boxer without sacrificing reliability.
An old saying goes something like this... "Power. Cheap. Reliable. - Pick 2"
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Hmmmm....we're still not sure if the Aisin Transmission hooks up directly to the EJ25...
The AVO guys had to build a custom Hollinger tranny for their D1 Car.

Another thing to keep in mind is having too much power for a rwd car means you need to put wider tires to prevent traction problems (staggered setup), which means the front end will lose traction first when not under power while cornering.

Giving this car more power while maintaining the cars original balance in corners is key here.

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its easier to market a HP # than it is to market a set up that corners at 1.1 lateral G's, avoids tramlining, corrects bump steer, fixes other suspension issues, etc. the reality is that most people who are buying modifications don't know what any of that stuff means, or don't use it driving light to light.

once someone cracks the ECU, I imagine you will see more tuning with the factory drive train. I personally want to leave the drive train alone and make the rest of the car faster. I'm looking forward to stock reliability at the track. Maybe intake, exhaust, headers later this summer?...
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its easier to market a HP # than it is to market a set up that corners at 1.1 lateral G's, avoids tramlining, corrects bump steer, fixes other suspension issues, etc. the reality is that most people who are buying modifications don't know what any of that stuff means, or don't use it driving light to light.

once someone cracks the ECU, I imagine you will see more tuning with the factory drive train. I personally want to leave the drive train alone and make the rest of the car faster. I'm looking forward to stock reliability at the track. Maybe intake, exhaust, headers later this summer?...
Ecu has already been cracked...
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