squared vs staggered

[FullTuneZN6]

Originally Posted by OjiGeorge

Had staggered 235f 255r, and then switched to square, 255 all around with same tire. Square has my vote by a long shot.

did the 255s rub up front?

[Brick]

I have some rub on my 255s up front that's with a 9.5 " rim with a +45 offset

[FullTuneZN6]

Originally Posted by Brick

I have some rub on my 255s up front that's with a 9.5 " rim with a +45 offset

so do you think a 245/35 tire with a 9.5" wheel up front would clear with offset of +38? and dialed in some neg camber around 1.5-2*?

[Brick]

I can't tell you definivetly as I haven't tracked down the source of my rubbing. It's only at full lock. Someone with firsthand expierence with that offset can help you out. Even if you clear the inside of everything the change in offset compared to the +45 moves you closer to the fender.

[FullTuneZN6]

yeh i think im going to go with square 8.5"s...but heres my dumb question, just so i make sure i understand, if i used a spacer of say 5mm in the rear that would have a similar impact on the wheel's "flushness" poke whatever as a lower offset? the spacer basically pushes the wheel out more based on size of spacer? thanks and i apologize for my ignorance

i ask only because the 8.5 in the rear is going to be tucked a little more than the front and i want to try to have it a little more flush thanks

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by FullTuneZN6

thanks for the input, i think square is going to be the way to go and if i need a little more traction when i go FI ill just use a wider tire... @King Tut u think 255s square will fit up front with no rub?

Depends on wheel width and offset.

Originally Posted by Brick

I have some rub on my 255s up front that's with a 9.5 " rim with a +45 offset

Have you tried a 5mm spacer? I think that will fix the rub in the front.

[Brick]

Originally Posted by King Tut

Have you tried a 5mm spacer? I think that will fix the rub in the front.

I was only able to drive the car with the new rims and tires for a day before work had me leave home for awhile so i don't know where it's rubbing yet. If it's rubbing on the inside then a spacer is a no brainer.

[King Tut]

Originally Posted by Brick

I was only able to drive the car with the new rims and tires for a day before work had me leave home for awhile so i don't know where it's rubbing yet. If it's rubbing on the inside then a spacer is a no brainer.

I had 9.5 +40 265 width and rubbed the frame at full lock in the front.

[OjiGeorge]

Originally Posted by Tye300

How did the car feel when square and staggered? I'm running 235 square for my track days and I'm curious what benefits going staggered to a 265 rear would get me. I'm using Achilles 123s for track. As of now, at 270whp, powering out of corners makes the rear step out easily than when I was NA.

Personally I'd keep the 235 square set-up over a wider rear tire until you wear those down, and then upgrade all four corners if you want more grip.

Could you run a slightly faster time with a wider rear tire? Probably. But the car wont be as fun, AND wont be as predictable if you are not experienced = double negative. That said, the 86 is still very predictable with a staggered setup~ it's just not as fun, and the balance is off, and you can't push it quite as much... yadda yadda square ftw

[OjiGeorge]

Originally Posted by FullTuneZN6

did the 255s rub up front?

255 Hankook V12's, on a +40, 9" rim with -2.5 camber, have zero rubbing issues.

[Vis101]

@OjiGeorge, how much drop do you have from the stock suspension system?

[OjiGeorge]

Originally Posted by Vis101

@OjiGeorge, how much drop do you have from the stock suspension system?

It's a good question. TBH I haven't measured it, just had a local shop install the T2's and set it to how they recommended it. After having them on there for a year it's a bit too low for my use. Looks great, but it's not ideal if I'm really on it. I'm planning to raise it some next week when I go in for an alignment.

Here's a pic to show you. No finger gaps. The silver lining is that even with this low I'm not experiencing any rubbing issues.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=6921

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/pictu...pictureid=7447

The RT5's +44 are with a staggered setup, the Bremmer's +40 are square.

[FullTuneZN6]

@King Tut, if i run a square setup with staggered offsets it should have a major impact on performance/balance?

specifically 18x8.5 +47 Front ; 18x8.5 +38 rear? my only concern with th + 47 upfront is brake clearance with the wilwood BBK. but with staggered offset- the mm from flush is almost identical which mirrors stock setup(STOCK 42.5mm from flush F/R; THIS 22.5mm FR/20.5mm Rear). thanks

[FullTuneZN6]

i found some 18x9 wheels but they have a super high offset of +52, that helps with the poke but im worried if the wheels will be able to clear the calipers of a BBK...any thoughts on this?