2014 86CUP presented by Winmax, rules and schedule

[retrosmiths]

Hey guys! Here's an editable spreadsheet for your points calculation need:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...EE&usp=sharing

It requires a Google account to copy/use it, though, but it's all automagic once you've got it. Just change the zeroes to ones!

[Wonderbar]

Interesting. I don't know if I'm capable, but I'd be down for trying to start this up on the east coast. Maybe have an east vs west showdown at some point.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Wonderbar

Interesting. I don't know if I'm capable, but I'd be down for trying to start this up on the east coast. Maybe have an east vs west showdown at some point.

Make it happen!

Norcal has one going

[Anthonytpt]

The movement grows.

[solidONE]

Originally Posted by Sonolin

I've been wondering, is e85 tune + e85 reflash = .50 points (for e85) or .75 (e85 + flash)? Also what about 100 octane shouldn't that incur a penalty if e85 does?

I believe tune and fuel both have separate values. So .75 to run e85. Unless you run e85 without tune... Car will probably not run too well in that case, but will only incur a .50 penalty. Can we get a confirmation on this, 86cup board?

[solidONE]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

MODIFICATIONS

Power, Engine, and Drivetrain
□ 0.00 - OEM, unmodified FA20 with ALL factory parts
□ 0.25 - Any aftermarket intake system or modification to OEM intake
□ 0.125 - Any aftermarket header or turbo manifold/downpipe with a catalytic converter
□ 0.25 - Any aftermarket header or turbo manifold/downpipe without a catalytic converter
□ 0.125 - High-flow catalytic converter front/mid-pipe
□ 0.25 - catless front/mid-pipe
□ 0.00 - Cat-back or axle-back exhaust
□ 1.00 - Internal engine modifications (head, cams, etc.)
□ 2.50 - Any Forced Induction (e.g. AVO, Greddy, Jackson Racing, Innovate, Kraftwerks, Vortech); must take separate penalties for ECU, and header as applicable
□ 0.25 - Aftermarket ECU and/or ECU reflash
□ 0.50 - E85 tune
□ 1.00 - Aftermarket axles
□ 1.00 - Aftermarket transmission
□ 0.25 - Non-OEM LSD
□ 0.00 - Non-OEM Final Drive

Wheel and Tires
□ -2.00 - Any street tire TW 320+
□ -1.00 - Any street tire TW 220-300
□ 0.00 - Any street tire: TW 140-200
□ 1.25 - Level 1 R-compound tire : NT01, RA1, R888, A048, RC1
□ 2.50 - Level 2 R-compound tire: R6, V700, R1, TD
□ 4.00 - Level 3 R-compound tire: V710, A6, C91
□ 0.00 - 215 width tires
□ 0.25 - 225 width tires
□ 0.50 - 235 width tires
□ 0.75 - 245 width tires
□ 1.00 - 255+ width tires
□ 0.00 - OEM wheels
□ 0.00 - Wheel spacers
□ 0.125 - 5-7.5" width aftermarket wheels
□ 0.25 - 8" width aftermarket wheels
□ 0.375 - 8.5" width aftermarket wheels
□ 0.5 - 9" width aftermarket wheels
□ 0.625 - 9.5" width aftermarket wheels
□ 0.75 - 10+" width aftermarket wheels

Aerodynamics
□ 0.25 - Level 1 Front Aero: aftermarket front bumper or any aftermarket lip (must not have splitter built-in)
□ 0.50 - Level 2 Front Aero: full front aero package (anything more than a simple lip or bumper; can include any spats and canards)
□ 0.125 - Canard Set (each set L/R, if not combined with L2 Front Aero)
□ 0.125 - Spats only (each set L/R, if not combined with L2 Front Aero)
□ 0.25 - Level 1 Rear Aero: rear diffuser
□ 0.50 - Level 2 Rear Aero: full underbody tray with diffuser
□ 0.125 - Vented hood
□ 0.125 - Vented fender and/or wide fenders
□ 0.125 - Aftermarket or modified/cut rear bumper
□ 0.125 - Vortex generators
□ 0.25 - Aftermarket rear spoiler (e.g. 5-axis, integrated duckbill in trunk)
□ 1.00 - Level 1 Wing: APR GTC-200 (all versions), Voltex 1S wing or smaller, 245mm stands maximum
□ 1.50 - Level 2 Wing: Any adjustable wing bigger than APR GTC-200/Voltex 1S
□ 0.125 - APR 2.5” Riser (applies only to APR GTC-200)
□ 0.125 - 275mm stands (applies to Voltex 1S only)
□ 0.125 - Gurney Flap (applies to Level 1 Wing only)

Suspension
□ 0.00 - Any OEM BRZ or FRS suspension
□ 0.50 - Aftermarket springs with OEM shocks
□ 1.00 - Aftermarket springs with any off the shelf non-adjustable shock
□ 1.50 - Any aftermarket damper with any aftermarket spring, or any coilover suspension
□ 0.50 - Any altered suspension mounting points, including offset mounts offset spring perches

Free Modifications
- any in-cabin safety equipment
- any brake pads
- any lightweight parts that do not also enhance performance by improving power, aerodynamics, handling, etc.*
- any interior removal as long as it does not compromise safety*
- any alignment, camber bolt, camber kit, bump steer kit, tie rod end, roll center adjuster, and camber plate.
- any bolt-on chassis braces
- updating or backdating OEM parts
- aftermarket steering wheel: only if R/H/S are installed for driver (otherwise prohibited)
- passenger airbag removal: only if passenger seat is removed, or R/H/S are installed for passenger (otherwise prohibited)
- aftermarket brake systems, brake ducts
- any OEM or aftermarket sway bars
- any spacer on aftermarket wheels
- OEM rear spoiler
- aftermarket flywheel, clutch, pressure-plate
- any aftermarket intake filter (filter element ONLY, any piping replacement is an intake)
- upgraded valve-springs and retainers
- oil-catch can, oil baffle pan
- any battery


* If you are unsure whether your modification violates these rules, please ask for clarification. If you are found to be in violation after the fact, you will be disqualified from the event.

Absolutely Prohibited
- nitrous oxide systems
- removal of vital safety equipment such as bumper beams, roll-hoops or airbags without R/H/S, etc.

86CUP CLASSES

Stock Class - 0.5 points maximum
The purpose of this class is to keep costs down and be attractive to a newcomer with a stock or minimally modified FRS or BRZ. Drivers of all experience levels are welcome. Tires are restricted to TW 140+ and no larger than 225 width.

Certain modifications are not allowed in Stock class:
- No Level 2 Front Aero
- No Level 1+ Rear Aero
- No Level 1+ Rear Wing
- No light-weight aftermarket parts, no aftermarket body panels, or any interior removal (unless necessary for safety equipment).
- No forced induction

Street Class - 3.5 points maximum
The purpose of this class is to allow moderate modifications to a primarily street-driven car. Drivers/owners are allowed flexibility to choose different modifications, while being exposed to an even playing field. 2850 minimum weight with driver and FULL tank of gas

Modified – 6.5 points maximum
Modified cars are expected to have a myriad of dedicated performance modifications. Cars in this class will typically either have a large amount of power and/or are easily identifiable as a track driven car. 2750 minimum weight with driver and FULL tank of gas.

Super Modified - 10 points maximum
Minimum weight for Super Modified Class is 2700 pounds with driver. Who knows what you may see in this class...

2014 86CUP Board Members:
@CSG Mike @mav1178 @ImperiousRex

WEIGHING

Rules
Each class has a minimum weight: at any point during the day, a competitor with driver inside must meet that minimum weight. If and when a competitor is found to be below minimum weight, he will be penalized 1 second for every 25 pounds he is under the minimum weight. If this is the competitor’s first violation, the first 25 pounds will be allowed as leeway (for possible scale-to-scale variation), but he will be penalized for any further discrepancy. Also, if this is the first violation, he may choose to forfeit all laptimes he has accrued until the weighing process, add back weight to his car to meet minimum weight, and re-start new timed laps instead of taking a lap-time penalty. Any repeat violations will automatically incur the lap time plenty as outlined above.

Weighing Protocol
One competitor from each group (Street and Modified) will be selected at random to be weighed at any time during the day. The probability of being weighed is directly proportional to the number of points he has accrued throughout the season (for example, this is equivalent to adding one’s name in a hat once for every point he scores, then drawing from that hat at random). That means top drivers have the highest likelihood of being weighed, and drivers who have yet to score points will never be weighed.

Weighing Logistics
Two drivers from each class may volunteer or will be randomly selected to participate in the weighing process. Only drivers from a different class may weigh one class (to create impartiality). For example, if a Stock class participant is being weighed, only the two drivers from Street and two drivers from Modified may assist in the weighing process. All who participate in the S2KC implicitly agree to help with the weighing process if called upon, barring any extenuating circumstances.

PROTEST PROTOCOL
A competitor may also be spot-weighed if two peers (or at least half of the participants of that day, whichever is less) from the same class believe the competitor to be in violation of minimum weight. That competitor will be liable to be weighed on the spot. In addition, if a competitor suspects another is underrepresenting his points, he may bring his concern to a member of the 86CUP board immediately, so that a board member can audit the car at that point, and compare the setup to that declared on the signup sheet. If a participant fails the audit, he can choose to: 1) correct the violation and forfeit all a previous laps and redo timed laps for any remaining sessions; or 2) take a 1 second penalty for every 0.25 points he is over the ]

Hmm... That's confusing. I see no point penalty for 100 octane. Then technically I can run 100 octane tune with only .25 penalty.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by solidONE

I believe tune and fuel both have separate values. So .75 to run e85. Unless you run e85 without tune... Car will probably not run too well in that case, but will only incur a .50 penalty. Can we get a confirmation on this, 86cup board?

You'll blow your engine.

Yes, a NA car with E85 get 0.75 total.

No penalty for 100 octane. Why? 1. Anyone and everyone has equal opportunity to use it; it's readily available AT the track and every stock ECU will utilize it. 2. no way to realistically enforce it.

Originally Posted by Sonolin

I've been wondering, is e85 tune + e85 reflash = .50 points (for e85) or .75 (e85 + flash)? Also what about 100 octane shouldn't that incur a penalty if e85 does?

E85 and 100 octane are nowhere near similar. E85 will make more power than using leaded C16/Q16. Remember, E85 also dramatically cools the intake charge.

[solidONE]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

You'll blow your engine.

Yes, a NA car with E85 get 0.75 total.

No penalty for 100 octane. Why? 1. Anyone and everyone has equal opportunity to use it; it's readily available AT the track and every stock ECU will utilize it. 2. no way to realistically enforce it.



E85 and 100 octane are nowhere near similar. E85 will make more power than using leaded C16/Q16. Remember, E85 also dramatically cools the intake charge.

Comment reminded me of this:



You're right. Higher octane gas should be recommended for factory tune in the interest of engine preservation...

[Zach3794]

So I'm guessing that being supercharged puts me in modified...maybe super modified with everything else?

[D1cker]

Originally Posted by Zach3794

So I'm guessing that being supercharged puts me in modified...maybe super modified with everything else?

Why don't you add up the points, how would anyone else know the exact modifications to your car?

My car still fits into Modified with an SC for reference.

[Zach3794]

Surprisingly....my tires bump me down into street class because they're 340 treadwear continental extremecontact dw...isn't that a little unfair?


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[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by Zach3794

Surprisingly....my tires bump me down into street class because they're 340 treadwear continental extremecontact dw...isn't that a little unfair?


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You underestimate the importance of tires around a road course. =)

It is not uncommon to gain 2-4 secs just by swapping to grippier tires.

Not to mention more power with minimal traction... not a great combo.

[Zach3794]

Eh, I think the treadwear on these is rather conservative. They grip as much as the PSS I've used before, and that's as aggressive as I'll get since I drive it every day and don't have two sets of wheels


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[D1cker]

Originally Posted by Zach3794

Surprisingly....my tires bump me down into street class because they're 340 treadwear continental extremecontact dw...isn't that a little unfair?


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Not really, a street class car can run a 2:02 at buttonwillow, I don't see an FRS getting to that time on conti DW's, even with a blower.