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Old 07-23-2013, 06:09 AM   #1453
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I can't even come up with something I dislike, an annoyance or even something moderately irritating about this car.
Great sentiment which I really like but reality is there are some annoying features on the car, though "hate" might be a bit strong...such as;-

- the C pillar blind spot
- the sound tube (I really do not like it....someone on another thread likened the sound to that of a "wet fart", I think that's pretty accurate)
- stiff 2nd gear when cold
- GPS signal continually being lost

I could complain about some of the finishes, some features I would have liked, but aren't included and the lack of sound deadening, but for the price of the car that would be very unfair, whereas I think the above criticisms are fair.....don't get me wrong, I do very much I love this car For the price it is literally amazing!!!!
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Old 07-23-2013, 08:34 AM   #1454
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I did too until one day a car slammed on their brakes in front of me the very second I did a shoulder-check. Although rare, in those situations microseconds count. The mirror can be adjusted to cover the exact spot that's blind, I'd still use both not just one method.
SAE paper many years ago recommended blind spot coverage with the door mirrors. I've used this setup for decades now. It is far more important to avoid the dufous in front of you than the dufous trying to pass you at 3 mph differential speed.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...id-blind-spots

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Old 07-23-2013, 09:50 AM   #1456
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Coming from a 2012 Focus SEL I miss the following:

Tap turn signal for three blinks (going to be buying that Tapaturn thing to remedy this issue)

consistent bluetooth (worked every time in the Focus, has worked one of two times in the FR-S)

Steering wheel controls (by far my biggest issue, I really miss being able to adjust the volume and change the radio station without reach over. Volume is easy enough, but the touch screen is annoying for flipping between radio and CD and having to look over to find the change track button)

armrest/center console (I could fit a lot more stuff in the center console and glove box in the Focus than I can in the glove box of the FR-S)

Sun glasses holder up near the mirror
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Old 07-23-2013, 09:53 AM   #1457
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Weird... ive used the bluetooth every day without any issues... I even listen to pandora through BT
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Weird... ive used the bluetooth every day without any issues... I even listen to pandora through BT
My dumb (non-smart) phone might be part of the issue, but I never had a problem connecting to Ford's Sync software.
The first time I synced my phone it worked fine, but hopping in the car last night the phone wouldn't connect properly. Bluetooth symbol popped up and everything it just wouldn't allow me to use the phone, I tried turning bluetooth on the phone off and on multiple times to no avail. I figure it was just a quirk, but I guess I'll find out as I go.
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Old 07-23-2013, 10:58 AM   #1459
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Buy a Nexus 4. :P
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Old 07-23-2013, 11:11 AM   #1460
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I dunno, my Nexus 4 hates my Bespoke. The phone connection works about 90% of the time but the contacts maybe 1 in 5 tries. Since there is no Android support for the Bespoke, I am investigating to moving to a Nexus 7 and removing the bespoke all together.
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Old 07-23-2013, 12:36 PM   #1463
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6'2" and I have to slouch pretty good with a helmet on, if there were only an inch or so more room, I would be fine...
That's really weird. Maybe you have a very long torso? I'm 6'2" and I have plenty of headroom. With a helmet on I still have around 1" of clearance.

And to the people that say there's nothing to dislike about this car, I don't get it. The heart and soul of a sports car is it's engine. I don't really know how that can be debated. And the word that best describes this engine is "adequate". Lukewarm would be another adjective.

Intoxicating, powerful, screamer, etc...are words that do not come to mind.
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6'2" and I have to slouch pretty good with a helmet on, if there were only an inch or so more room, I would be fine...
Is your seat all the way down? I sit fairly straight/close to the steering wheel but the seat is all the way down and im around 6'1
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Old 07-23-2013, 01:15 PM   #1465
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Good point about the seat height. I actually don't even have my seat all the way down, as I thought visibility over the hood was suffering. So I've got even more room to work with, if need be, hahaha.
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Old 07-23-2013, 02:16 PM   #1466
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I can name 2 of the top of my head. The driver side blind spot which is one of the worst ive seen in a car, and no change holder.
I usually have my window open. Turn head, look. If the window is not open, turn head, look.
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I usually have my window open. Turn head, look. If the window is not open, turn head, look.
might be the sitting position but the rear bar blocks 95% of vision for me. I sit straight/close to the wheel.
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My Samsung Note 2 HATES the bluetooth on the stock headunit.

I have to change it to radio/bluetooth/radio/bluetooth for it to start working when I first turn the car on.

Its the only thing that makes the bluetooth audio work.
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Old 07-23-2013, 02:46 PM   #1469
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Great sentiment which I really like but reality is there are some annoying features on the car, though "hate" might be a bit strong...such as;-

- the C pillar blind spot
- the sound tube (I really do not like it....someone on another thread likened the sound to that of a "wet fart", I think that's pretty accurate)
- stiff 2nd gear when cold
- GPS signal continually being lost

I could complain about some of the finishes, some features I would have liked, but aren't included and the lack of sound deadening, but for the price of the car that would be very unfair, whereas I think the above criticisms are fair.....don't get me wrong, I do very much I love this car For the price it is literally amazing!!!!
I would say the blind spot is irrelevant.. most cars have this especially sport coupes. Just adjust the mirrors properly and I haven't had any issues.
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That's really weird. Maybe you have a very long torso? I'm 6'2" and I have plenty of headroom. With a helmet on I still have around 1" of clearance.

And to the people that say there's nothing to dislike about this car, I don't get it. The heart and soul of a sports car is it's engine. I don't really know how that can be debated. And the word that best describes this engine is "adequate". Lukewarm would be another adjective.

Intoxicating, powerful, screamer, etc...are words that do not come to mind.
I hate to get technical, but the FRS/BRZ/GT86/FT86 are not sports cars. They are Grand Tourers. Per wikipedia:

"Grand tourers emphasize comfort and handling over straight-out high performance or spartan accommodations. Historically, most GTs have been front-engined with rear wheel drive, which creates more space for the cabin than mid-mounted engine layouts. Softer suspensions, greater storage, and more luxurious appointments add to their driving appeal."

Hell, even the sports car article states that:

"A sports car (sportscar or sport car) is a small, usually two seat, two door automobile designed for spirited performance and nimble handling. Sports cars may be spartan or luxurious but high maneuverability and minimum weight are requisite."

So technically, the F/B/G/86 fits this requirement, but at no point does engine become a requirement for a sports car. One of the best selling sports cars of all time was/is the MX-5 and their original engines can probably best be described as "anemic". More important than power is weight and its distribution and handling characteristics. THAT is the heart and soul of a sports or GT car. Engine is the heart and soul of a Drag Racer.

FWIW, I believe that a little more power would draw out our favorable balance and grace (maybe 200whp), but as it stands it is nothing to complain about. I see people doing far greater with less capability.
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Come on now, you've got to be kidding me. It's a sports car. For serious

If this car had 200 whp from the factory I would never complain about it's power. I would probably still want to give it more but it wouldn't be a negative point of contention to me.
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Come on now, you've got to be kidding me. It's a sports car. For serious

If this car had 200 whp from the factory I would never complain about it's power. I would probably still want to give it more but it wouldn't be a negative point of contention to me.
Fair enough. That is a legitimate concern with owners and a great deal of this forum is dedicated to correcting that imbalance. Of course, nothing is perfect, and you know how it goes:

You can have any 2 you want:

1. Price
2. Handling
3. Power

We chose 1 and 2. Mustang owners chose 1 and 3. Lotus/Porsche owners are choosing 2 and 3. For what we paid though, we are getting our money's worth IMHO .
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That's really weird. Maybe you have a very long torso? I'm 6'2" and I have plenty of headroom. With a helmet on I still have around 1" of clearance.

And to the people that say there's nothing to dislike about this car, I don't get it. The heart and soul of a sports car is it's engine. I don't really know how that can be debated. And the word that best describes this engine is "adequate". Lukewarm would be another adjective.

Intoxicating, powerful, screamer, etc...are words that do not come to mind.
6'3 here and I can fit in easily with a helmet... Something I couldn't do in many of the other sport cars I owned.. I even have the seat pumped up some for non-helmet driving times... Many thanks to the designers for making it fit us taller than avg folk..
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love my fr-s BUT would the only thing I "hate" is lack of smart key system - im okay with everything else and have a shit eating grin on my face everytime I drive it but for what the gt86 has and what the brz-l offers i think scion should have included proximity key w/push start -
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