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Old 09-30-2015, 03:23 PM   #1
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New Toe Arm Option - FT-86SpeedFactory by Verus

Another great project from FT-86 SpeedFactory and Velox has come to life.

What we have here are some great toe arms that include all the options need to keep your alignment in check, especially if lowered.

Adjust toe quickly and easily to ranges outside the OEM system's capabilities with these lightweight toe control links. Reducing weight by 10 oz. per side, these control links function well and pack a powerful weight savings as well.

Inboard eccentric blocks come standard reducing any and all slop for rear toe. With the optional ride height correction kit, correct improper toe control link geometry caused by lowering of the car. We use this on our race car to correct the arm position.

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-Billet 6061-T6 Machined Aluminum adjustment rod and eccentric blocks
-Pre Hardened SS shank bushing (no rusting)
-7075 Aluminum Inboard PTFE rod end
-High strength, high mis-alignment steel outboard PTFE Rod end
-High strength zinc coated steel hardware

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-Lightweight design (save 10 oz per side)
-Easy to make adjustments
-No slop bearings and eccentric blocks for toe that will remain consistent
-All aluminum pieces are anodized to reduce corrosion









What do you guys think? We're big fans obviously.
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Old 09-30-2015, 04:38 PM   #2
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What would be really cool is if you had a before and after pic under the car with these things installed.

Nice job guys.

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Do they also have a turn buckle style adjustment?
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In what way does lowering affect toe?
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Sorry guys, wasn't quite ready for this to be started but that just gets me off the computer to go take some photos . Can't complain about something like that.

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Do they also have a turn buckle style adjustment?
Yessir.


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In what way does lowering affect toe?
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What would be really cool is if you had a before and after pic under the car with these things installed.

Nice job guys.

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Thanks Andrew. See below as well for some installed pictures.

If you look on the rear of an OEM FT86 at OEM ride height on the ground, you’ll notice that the toe control link is near horizontal. This was not on accident and makes quite a bit of sense as to why OEM did it this way if we think about it briefly. The rear toe angle is always changing as the suspension cycles up and down. To minimize the amount of toe change during suspension travel, the toe control link should be horizontal while at static ride height. This is not achievable with a lowered vehicle. Therefore, we designed an add on to our rear toe control links which restores the OEM geometry by bringing the toe link back to near horizontal on a lowered FR-S/BRZ/GT86.


Rear toe control link installed on a stock ride height vehicle.


Using a level, we can easily see that the toe link is near horizontal at stock ride height.


As we reduce ride height, the toe control link moves further away from horizontal at static ride height. This may be hard to view in this picture though.


In this photo it is clear to see that the level is showing the link is clearly no longer horizontal.


With the spacer installed, we can see that the toe link has been brought back to a near OEM position.


Final evidence that at ~1.25"-1.38" of static ride height reduction results in a horizontal toe control link, restoring OEM geometry for the toe link.

Rear toe is an important area of vehicle setups. A BRZ/FRS being driven in a performance situation will benefit from more rear toe stability during hard driving. This will aid in making the handling as consistent as possible when pushing the vehicle hard while lowered.
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I'm confused, though that doesn't take much. It has inboard eccentric blocks for toe adjustment, as well as a turn buckle style adjustment?

Nice looking product. I'm glad someone finally put geometry adjustment into one of these.
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I'm confused, though that doesn't take much. It has inboard eccentric blocks for toe adjustment, as well as a turn buckle style adjustment?

Nice looking product. I'm glad someone finally put geometry adjustment into one of these.
The eccentric blocks are just that, they actually block the eccentric function which is used with the OEM toe control link.



If you look at the inboard point, you can see that there is a long oval, this fits within the eccentric hole and blocks nearly all movement from this inboard point. Hope this clears it up .
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I like that it comes ready for spacing out to account for a changed ride height, as far as I know these are the only toe arms to do so?
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Do you have before and after measurements for bump steer?
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I like that it comes ready for spacing out to account for a changed ride height, as far as I know these are the only toe arms to do so?
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We approximated it in CAD but have not verified this measurement on car.
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So what's making link level at lowered ride heights? The part being advertised or the spacer? Or both? Or is the spacer not needed since the part is adjustable and that's what you are trying to show? I'm missing something stupid here I'm sure.
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So what's making link level at lowered ride heights? The part being advertised or the spacer? Or both? Or is the spacer not needed since the part is adjustable and that's what you are trying to show? I'm missing something stupid here I'm sure.
The spacer does. Though the toe control link can be used on lowered and non-lowered vehicles just fine as is (no spacer) just like all other units out there to my knowledge. It's an add on that we thought would be nice to offer.

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Sorry guys, wasn't quite ready for this to be started but that just gets me off the computer to go take some photos . Can't complain about something like that.



Yessir.




Please see below.



Thanks Andrew. See below as well for some installed pictures.

If you look on the rear of an OEM FT86 at OEM ride height on the ground, you’ll notice that the toe control link is near horizontal. This was not on accident and makes quite a bit of sense as to why OEM did it this way if we think about it briefly. The rear toe angle is always changing as the suspension cycles up and down. To minimize the amount of toe change during suspension travel, the toe control link should be horizontal while at static ride height. This is not achievable with a lowered vehicle. Therefore, we designed an add on to our rear toe control links which restores the OEM geometry by bringing the toe link back to near horizontal on a lowered FR-S/BRZ/GT86.


Rear toe control link installed on a stock ride height vehicle.


Using a level, we can easily see that the toe link is near horizontal at stock ride height.


As we reduce ride height, the toe control link moves further away from horizontal at static ride height. This may be hard to view in this picture though.


In this photo it is clear to see that the level is showing the link is clearly no longer horizontal.


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Final evidence that at ~1.25"-1.38" of static ride height reduction results in a horizontal toe control link, restoring OEM geometry for the toe link.

Rear toe is an important area of vehicle setups. A BRZ/FRS being driven in a performance situation will benefit from more rear toe stability during hard driving. This will aid in making the handling as consistent as possible when pushing the vehicle hard while lowered.
I'd hit it.

Any problem with the bolt and the parking brake cable making contact, particularly with the spacer? looks like there is only a few mm of clearance on the one without spacer. The one with spacer look like you guys pulled it aside to make room.
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@NotEric6 I certainly have a better understanding of what the product does and why it would be needed, so thanks for that. However, I guess what I want to know is does lowering change the toe in or out? Or just the affect suspension travel has on toe? To be more specific, I had an alignment done when I was lowered on RCE Yellows and had 1/8" of toe in. I have since installed Tein Flex Z's and am at about 40mm of drop from stock. Did this add or take away any toe in?
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