DOT Crash Test (non) Data for FR-S/BRZ - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Dadhawk · 03-23-2012, 03:36 PM

Sent an email to crashtest@DOT.GOV to see if they had test data yet. Here was the response:

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The 2013 Scion FRS & 2013 Subaru BRZ have not been tested. We have not yet begun testing model year 2013 vehicles and we are currently in the process of selecting which vehicles will be tested. We have not yet determined whether the Scion FRS or the Subaru BRZ will be tested.

Unfortunately we are not able to test every vehicle in every crash mode. Each year, the NCAP is assigned a specific amount of funds by Congress. The program is not authorized to spend funds beyond what Congress approves. In order to optimize the money allotted by congress, we generally only test those vehicles with the highest expected projected sales volumes. Sometimes, NHTSA chooses to test a vehicle that has a potentially innovative safety device, regardless of the sales volume. These, along with carry-over vehicles and corporate twins, provide information on approximately 80% of the passenger vehicles sold in the USA. For further safety information on additional vehicles, you may want to visit the IIHS, EuroNCAP, Japan NCAP, or Australian NCAP websites. You can link to them from our web site.

Even though your vehicle was not tested by NCAP it is still a safe car. Since the vehicle is sold in the United States, it is still required to pass minimum Federal safety standards. If it did not, the manufacturer could not sell the vehicle in this country. Remember, NCAP tests are currently run at higher speed than the standards. The higher NCAP speeds are meant to let the consumer know how much additional safety potential the car has. We also hope market forces will encourage the manufacturers to design higher levels of safety into their cars.

Thank you for your continued interest in our program.
NCAP
www.safercar.gov
888-327-4236

Double4Free · 03-23-2012, 04:17 PM

So they have no crash test data yet...Classy.

Dadhawk · 03-23-2012, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Double4Free

So they have no crash test data yet...Classy.

That's not unusual. I know when the Smart came to the US it was 16 to 18 months before they crash tested it. Of course, that could have been because they kept missing the barriers with them...

ichitaka05 · 03-23-2012, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadhawk

That's not unusual. I know when the Smart came to the US it was 16 to 18 months before they crash tested it. Of course, that could have been because they kept missing the barriers with them...

Really? I never knew that. Thanks for the info

I wonder how well Zx6 will do...

Snoopyalien24 · 03-23-2012, 04:44 PM

Can anyone email maybe, European crash test people?

tranzformer · 03-23-2012, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Really? I never knew that. Thanks for the info

I wonder how well Zx6 will do...

It has Subaru's ring shape structure. So I assume fairly well given the type of car it is. Plus it has what, like 7 airbags?

ichitaka05 · 03-23-2012, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer

It has Subaru's ring shape structure. So I assume fairly well given the type of car it is. Plus it has what, like 7 airbags?

That's what I assume... but more bags doesn't mean better

Dadhawk · 03-23-2012, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Really? I never knew that. Thanks for the info

I wonder how well Zx6 will do...

like the email said its based on volume of sales and budget. I seriously doubt a ferrari or lambo has ever been crash tested, well at least in the lab. Even the recent volt tests that caused all the uproar were after it was already being sold.

bneale · 03-23-2012, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05

That's what I assume... but more bags doesn't mean better

You don't talk to the opposite sex much do you?

bneale

Double4Free · 03-23-2012, 06:33 PM

If anyone heard about the problems with the scion IQ which caused its delayed release being literally death traps because of the metal they used (as was the rumor I heard), I would actually like to see the crash test information, even if it was European information.

bneale · 03-23-2012, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double4Free

If anyone heard about the problems with the scion IQ which caused its delayed release being literally death traps because of the metal they used (as was the rumor I heard), I would actually like to see the crash test information, even if it was European information.

But why? Subaru doesn't make the iQ? So why worry?

Remember Subaru is building the car, not Toyota. If you were talking about a Legacy, I would be worried.

bneale

Double4Free · 03-23-2012, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bneale

But why? Subaru doesn't make the iQ? So why worry?

Remember Subaru is building the car, not Toyota. If you were talking about a Legacy, I would be worried.

bneale

True, but in my mind id love to see some hard lab data before putting a loved one in the passenger seat. Suppose its just my overly worrisome nature ahha.

bneale · 03-23-2012, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double4Free

True, but in my mind id love to see some hard lab data before putting a loved one in the passenger seat. Suppose its just my overly worrisome nature ahha.

I getcha. I too would be worried about loved ones but if it makes you feel any better, a lot of people on here are speculating that because of the Subaru ring design, it should be pretty crash worthy.

Also, someone else mentioned on here that the "Jaws of life" had to be re-engineered for fire fighters simply because Subaru put so much steel into the B pillers of their cars, they couldn't cut through them in an emergency. So they had to give the jaws MORE power.

They said something like 9 folds of steel are in the B pillers making the body super strong.

bneale

Double4Free · 03-23-2012, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bneale

I getcha. I too would be worried about loved ones but if it makes you feel any better, a lot of people on here are speculating that because of the Subaru ring design, it should be pretty crash worthy.

Also, someone else mentioned on here that the "Jaws of life" had to be re-engineered for fire fighters simply because Subaru put so much steel into the B pillers of their cars, they couldn't cut through them in an emergency. So they had to give the jaws MORE power.

They said something like 9 folds of steel are in the B pillers making the body super strong.

bneale

Thanks for the info

on a side note

According to the first image rear ending the BRZ/FRS will destroy the other cars front bumper but wont damage your BRZ/FRS. Good news!

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