The last unmodified BRZ.

[PowderfaceTr.]

What do you think my car will be worth in 30 years? Not modifying anything on it. It should be quite rare.

[WesleyG]

Probably not much, todays cars are not built to last, rather mod it, and enjoy it

[brianhj]

Lol it won't be worth much

[chaoskaze]

If you don't touch it at all & dealer hasn't even take off all those plastic warps then just store it in a underground garage for 30 years straight. YES.

Look up the untouched AE 86 in Belgium. U can be the 2nd one in the future. It was featured on speed hunter few years back.
http://jalopnik.com/5828381/this-is-...la-looks-like/

[funwheeldrive]

About as much as a stock 240sx.

[WesleyG]

Originally Posted by chaoskaze

If you don't touch it at all & dealer hasn't even take off all those plastic warps then just store it in a underground garage for 30 years straight. YES.

Look up the untouched AE 86 in Belgium. U can be the 2nd one in the future. It was featured on speed hunter few years back.
http://jalopnik.com/5828381/this-is-...la-looks-like/

oooh yeah i saw this.... If I was uber rich and had money to burn I would buy an 86 and lock it away like this for shits and giggles.

I love driving my cars, I hate it when people buy cars and then drive around in a beater because ' I dont want to put mileage on it" WTF did you buy it for? its a car, drive it and enjoy the thing!

[spicyricecake]

MY question is will our cars be one of those platforms that everyone does an engine swap on ~15 years down the road? like the 22b STI swaps or 2005 wrx with an STI motor swap. Maybe by then the FA20DIT will be the go to motor for the 86 swap projects

[Tcoat]

There will be vastly more unmodded BRZs then modded. The mistake is thinking this forum indicates the majority of owners when in fact it is probably someplace around 2% of them. All those folks that bought it because it was pretty or cheap and think that Mod is short for modern will be leaving them stock.

[industrial]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

There will be vastly more unmodded BRZs then modded. The mistake is thinking this forum indicates the majority of owners when in fact it is probably someplace around 2% of them. All those folks that bought it because it was pretty or cheap and think that Mod is short for modern will be leaving them stock.

I'd say that number is much higher given the nature of this car and the math. There have been something like 100,000 twins sold worldwide. This forum alone has 75,000 members and it only represents the English speaking community mostly in NA. If only 10% (I'm sure the numbers are much higher) of the membership here own a twin, that's still 7500 owners out of about 45,000 (17%) twins sold in NA.

[nastynate88]

Mod it and enjoy, but don't lose sight of taking care of the car.

I'm in it for the long haul with mine, which is not a sentiment that a lot of other 86 owners share with me. The 240sx comparison is spot on; finding a bunch of rough 240's in the world isn't difficult, but when you see one out in the wild that's been kept in really good condition with lots of tasteful mods that only nerds like us will notice, it's kind of a special thing.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by industrial

I'd say that number is much higher given the nature of this car and the math. There have been something like 100,000 twins sold worldwide. This forum alone has 75,000 members and it only represents the English speaking community mostly in NA. If only 10% (I'm sure the numbers are much higher) of the membership here own a twin, that's still 7500 owners out of about 45,000 (17%) twins sold in NA.

Miss read your answer and had a long winded response all typed and then went "ah shit we agree"!

Your assumptions look sound but even at 17% we are still the minority and should not be considered the benchmark for the "average" owner.
Now, of course just because a person is not on here does not mean they are not modded but the inverse also applies in that everybody here is not modded either.

Over all, the stock cars should outnumber the modded ones for a long time. This of course could change dramatically if they stop making them early. There are some older, short run cars that to find a stock one now is damned near impossible.

[pinski]

I'd say at least 20% of ownership is at least a member of this site; however, like the OP, not every owner modifies their car. I've spoken with quite a few who thinks it's great as-is.

Additionally, you have to take into consideration the second owners. Will they modify the car if the original owner didn't? Then you'd have even fewer unmolested examples. As they become (even) cheaper, they'll fall into hands of folks who may do really stupid things to them... third owners, fourth owners, etc. Some will become auto-x or track rats. Others will be stanced (yo). In 30 years, I doubt there will be many stock twins running around just like there aren't many stock Eclipses and older tuner cars running around.

I've kept all my stock parts so I can return it to stock when I move on from it and sell it as "unmolested and completely stock." LOL.

[WesleyG]

Originally Posted by spicyricecake

MY question is will our cars be one of those platforms that everyone does an engine swap on ~15 years down the road? like the 22b STI swaps or 2005 wrx with an STI motor swap. Maybe by then the FA20DIT will be the go to motor for the 86 swap projects

yeah probably, just like the MK3 MR2 spyder swap from 1zzfe to 2zzge, common swap, parts are even off the shelf for everything.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by pinski

I'd say at least 20% of ownership is at least a member of this site; however, like the OP, not every owner modifies their car. I've spoken with quite a few who thinks it's great as-is.

Additionally, you have to take into consideration the second owners. Will they modify the car if the original owner didn't? Then you'd have even fewer unmolested examples. As they become (even) cheaper, they'll fall into hands of folks who may do really stupid things to them... third owners, fourth owners, etc. Some will become auto-x or track rats. Others will be stanced (yo). In 30 years, I doubt there will be many stock twins running around just like there aren't many stock Eclipses and older tuner cars running around.

I've kept all my stock parts so I can return it to stock when I move on from it and sell it as "unmolested and completely stock." LOL.

I guess a lot of it depends on location as well. I see piles of Eclipses around and to spot one with obvious mods is actually pretty rare.

Depends on how many get made on how hard it will be to find a stock one. Obviously the fewer there are the more impact the mod community will have.

Your last sentence does throw another element into the mix. Just how many cars advertised as "unmolested and completely stock" down the road were actually "totally raped and only appear to be stock again"? (Not saying you were hard on yours but god knows some are). Can't wait to see how many 10 year old cars with pristine "original exhausts" are available in 2023.