Drift-Office : Borla UEL Header... TUNED. - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Drift-Office · 05-22-2013, 05:06 PM

Hey all, thought I'd share our findings with our recent calibration of a customer's setup with a production Borla UEL header on his FRS.

First, a quick re-hash : typical 6MT baseline @ 165-ish, stock wheels, stock intake, ARK Exhaust running 92 Octane. I won't bore you with videos on this one since there's plenty of BRZ / FRS Borla UEL videos on YouTube, so here's the nitty-gritty...

Coming in from having just installed the header with a 100% STOCK ECU setup, here's the baseline in 3rd and 4th :

Neato ~ it's pretty apparent that some of that dip has gone away, though it's still there... There's an increase of about 10WHP in PEAK numbers in 4th gear, not as much in 3rd... and cutting to the chase, when we were done with our calibration, these were the final results :

3rd Gear, before and after

4th Gear, before and after

I was hoping to cross the 180WHP mark as with most of our Stage 1 NA tunes, but in this case, the engine just didn't respond to any adjustments beyond that point. Granted that all this doesn't seem like much but it isn't until you overlay a typical baseline from another 6MT is when you see what this header does and where it really shines.

So based off that last chart, I think all of you who's keen in getting rid of that torque dip, your prayers are finally answered.

At the lowest point of the dip, you're looking at an additional 15#s of torque in that void, filling it up very nicely. In this case, you can expect an increase of 10 - 15 in terms of both power and torque thru the entire range.

So the bottom line in a nutshell : All UEL headers are not created equal (Get it?!) and requires tuning to optimize and realize their gains! With limitations in octane based on locality, you might not get the phenomenal results you otherwise would with E85 and such but you can expect to "feel" a much more of a planted sensation and linear performance with a proven setup like Borla's offering.

I've got a Rev Works UEL header to tune in the upcoming weeks, so stay tuned for more when it develops!

Regards!

Bob @ Drift-Office, LLC

kioton32 · 05-22-2013, 05:25 PM

Getting rid of that torque dip is amazing

Zgrinch · 05-22-2013, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drift-Office

I've got a Rev Works UEL header to tune in the upcoming weeks, so stay tuned for more when it develops!

Regards!

Bob @ Drift-Office, LLC

In for this...

NickFRS · 05-22-2013, 05:33 PM

Nice work!

buditjoenawan · 05-22-2013, 05:38 PM

Holy Grail!

I assume the car is now octane limited. If we can get 93 octane, non ethanol, non oxygenated, non swill fuel, we may see a flat torque curve, right?

Bob, do you think there is any chance 140lb-ft can be extended to 7400rpm? What do you think the bottleneck is beyond 6500rpm?

And also, how loud is this combination?

budi

Grip Ronin · 05-22-2013, 05:56 PM

The revworks should make well into 180s cuz the borla is poor quality with a retarded collector lol great tuning tho

FR-S Matt · 05-22-2013, 06:12 PM

So it looks like headers have answered our torque dip prayers. Nice! Can't wait to see more tunes of the RevWorks, JDL UEL, and side by side with the EL's (FA20club, P&L, Nameless when released) Thanks for sharing.

markmatley · 05-22-2013, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drift-Office

...I've got a Rev Works UEL header to tune in the upcoming weeks, so stay tuned for more when it develops!...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zgrinch

In for this...

Ditto

Sportsguy83 · 05-22-2013, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drift-Office

So the bottom line in a nutshell : All UEL headers are not created equal (Get it?!)

Opposed · 05-22-2013, 09:18 PM

My Revworks needs you!!! Here is my E85 tune after slapping the RevWorks UEL header on. Dip is still slightly there, but I hope this can be flattened with some work

Here it is over my baseline:

Drift-Office · 05-22-2013, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

Finally! Someone got it!

Cheers!

buditjoenawan · 05-22-2013, 10:01 PM

Bah. Word puns are not punny.

budi

ProjectD · 05-23-2013, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markmatley

Ditto

What HE said about what THEY said....

mid_life_crisis · 05-23-2013, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drift-Office

Finally! Someone got it!

Cheers!

We got it. We just ignored it.
You won't be tuning many cars in the punitentiary.
Ah well, you can tune a Toyota, but you still can't tuna fish.

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Opposed Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 Asphalt FR-S Location: Bloomington, MN Posts: 1,156 Thanks: 499 Thanked 447 Times in 294 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My Revworks needs you!!! Here is my E85 tune after slapping the RevWorks UEL header on. Dip is still slightly there, but I hope this can be flattened with some work Here it is over my baseline: __________________ Asphalt FR-S: EcuTek Visconti STG2 tune, MAPerformance turbo kit, MAPerformance 3" exhaust, Hotchkis springs, Mach-V 17x9 Awesomes. Build thread: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30703

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buditjoenawan Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Very very slowly Location: N. Hemisphere Posts: 108 Thanks: 13 Thanked 63 Times in 29 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Holy Grail! I assume the car is now octane limited. If we can get 93 octane, non ethanol, non oxygenated, non swill fuel, we may see a flat torque curve, right? Bob, do you think there is any chance 140lb-ft can be extended to 7400rpm? What do you think the bottleneck is beyond 6500rpm? And also, how loud is this combination? budi

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buditjoenawan Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Very very slowly Location: N. Hemisphere Posts: 108 Thanks: 13 Thanked 63 Times in 29 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Bah. Word puns are not punny. budi

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