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06-23-2014, 10:37 PM | #1 |
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Help Coilover selection
I am considering a set of Ohlins and I don't really care about price too much. What else is out there that is better than Ohlins? Anything cheaper to Ohlins but comparable or better?
My requirements are: 1. Street, I want it to be comfortable 2. Track (only 5-6 track days a year, not that much time) |
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KWs seem to be quite good from what everyone on this forum is saying. Search it out and you will find plenty of threads.
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Ohlins are pretty damn good. If you don't want to spend quite so much, KW v3 or Racecomp Engineering Tarmac IIs would be a great choice.
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As long as those street ride quality is good, I ain't 19 anymore, my back just can't take it if it is stiff as hell and bouncing all over the place. Money isn't so important to me, if Ohlins are only 5% better than KWs, I'd still take Ohlins even if its 800 dollars more or so.
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I dont see how anyone can mention Öhlins and KW in the same sentance
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If price was no option penske but they are around $10k. Koni with springs is a good choice that is less expensive then most high quality coil overs. If you really want coil overs and you don't want to pay for ohlins just get the kw and have a suspension guy corner balance the car and you will be just fine on the track.
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JRZ RS series?
http://www.jrzsuspension.com/products/rs-line/rs1.html Single adjustable monotube http://www.jrzsuspension.com/products/rs-line/rs.html Double adjustable twin tube http://www.jrzsuspension.com/product...ne/rs-pro.html Double adjustable monotube with remote canisters
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Super top quality will be Penskes, then JRZ. Then Ohlins, then RCE and KW. It depends on what your goals for the car are. If it's mostly street, maybe start with RCE yellow springs and OEM struts, or RCE Tarmac springs on Bilstein struts. Maybe @Racecomp Engineering or @CSG Mike could chime in and give you better answers. |
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Ohhh boy.
JRZ is niiiiice. Moton/AST are good as well, very well built. MCS is also super purdy. Ya got yer classic Öhlins Then ya got yer top of the line fully customizable Penske's. Get ready to pay an arm and a leg for any of them.
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That's still considerably more track time than most cars will ever see. Yes, there are absolutely better options than Ohlins R&T. What are you realistically willing to spend? Anything up to around ~6k has good gains per dollar, with returns starting to diminish after that. |
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I don't think you're going to beat the Ohlins for your usage. I got a set for the FD because the Tein SS that were on it were intolerable on the street even with "street" 9k/7k spring rates. The Ohlins at 11k/11k are like riding on a cloud over bumps, even when set to give much firmer lowspeed damping. You should consider getting stiffer rear springs with them. Their stock setup with even spring rates has the front wheel rate 60% higher than rear rate. Some have reported understeer as a result. I'd go 2k stiffer rears than fronts.
addendum: Depending on how stiff overall you want to be, you could either go 6k/8k (stiffer rears), or 4k/6k (softer fronts), or 5k/7k (softer fronts with stiffer rears), or hedge a bit on changing from their standard rates and go 6k/7k or 5k/6k. Last edited by ZDan; 06-24-2014 at 11:42 AM. |
06-24-2014, 09:56 AM | #13 |
Price no object, I'd still lean towards Ohlins for your uses. Maybe JRZ RS1. Ohlins are the "easy button" and they do everything pretty darn well.
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i see your biggest priority is how it is on the street. i had KW v3's and they were really nice on the street. the progressive rates make for a rather comfortable ride. on track they were also great and i had no complaints.
i have since switched to AST and while the suspension is far better and the car handles better, the street comfort has significantly diminished. its not jarring, but its not soft and plush like how the KW's were. i have the dampening turned to the softer side and it is still pretty solid. on hard bumps it doesn't hurt, but its obvious you're on AST's or w/e harsh suspension you have. ohlins and etc are all GREAT coilover systems, but i think on the street they will not be as comfortable as the Kw's. they will hold up great on track days, and unless you're a pro, i dont think you really need much more to truly enjoy the car...sure there is better suspensions out there, but how much do you REALLY need. -ivan |
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