I need some advice with my upgrades.

[HachiRokuX]

So basically, I have a few basic upgrades planned. I just want the 2017, 17" Forged TRD wheels, and TRD lowering kit installed. I went to my local dealer and they want to charge $4000 to install everything. That's obviously insane.

Their reasoning was they want to put some blah blah kit on the car along with the lowering springs.

They also said that when you lower a car and add new wheels (with a different offset from stock), you can't just take the old ones off and put the new ones on, the wheels will rub against the tire and you might bust the tire.

None of that sounds right to me, the TRD Forged wheels should just go right on the car. I think the whole process should only cost $1900 (400 for labor on the TRD lowering springs, 1500 on the wheels which I planned to install myself).

[swarb]

Originally Posted by HachiRokuX

So basically, I have a few basic upgrades planned. I just want the 2017, 17" Forged TRD wheels, and TRD lowering kit installed. I went to my local dealer and they want to charge $4000 to install everything. That's obviously insane.

Their reasoning was they want to put some blah blah kit on the car along with the lowering springs.

They also said that when you lower a car and add new wheels (with a different offset from stock), you can't just take the old ones off and put the new ones on, the wheels will rub against the tire and you might bust the tire.

None of that sounds right to me, the TRD Forged wheels should just go right on the car. I think the whole process should only cost $1900 (400 for labor on the TRD lowering springs, 1500 on the wheels which I planned to install myself).

Trd lowering kit is just springs. You can get them for $100-200 used and install them for 200-300 or so. Or learn to install them yourself.

The wheels are subjective if you like them or not. I think they look ok, but I personally would get a wider set and lower offset. 7.5 width and +43 (.5 wider and 5mm less offset than stock) They are ok for mild setups, but they aren't that special imo.

They will also steal your stock wheels and springs while they are doing the "install" for you.

[HachiRokuX]

Originally Posted by swarb

Trd lowering kit is just springs. You can get them for $100-200 used and install them for 200-300 or so. Or learn to install them yourself.

The wheels are subjective if you like them or not. I think they look ok, but I personally would get a wider set and lower offset. 7.5 width and +43 (.5 wider and 5mm less offset than stock) They are ok for mild setups, but they aren't that special imo.

They will also steal your stock wheels and springs while they are doing the "install" for you.

Thanks for the quick reply. I actually already bought the lowering springs new, I didn't want to risk getting them used..it was only about 220$ for four, great deal imo. I've spent a long time comparing wheels but I really love how the new TRD forged wheels look. Is there any truth to what the dealer was saying, though? I was thinking since the wheels are all the same size, they would be an easy swap with the stock wheels, even if I lower the car.

[swarb]

Originally Posted by HachiRokuX

Thanks for the quick reply. I actually already bought the lowering springs new, I didn't want to risk getting them used..it was only about 220$ for four, great deal imo. I've spent a long time comparing wheels but I really love how the new TRD forged wheels look. Is there any truth to what the dealer was saying, though? I was thinking since the wheels are all the same size, they would be an easy swap with the stock wheels, even if I lower the car.

They are 17x7.5 +43(the multispoke bronze wheels?) Stock is 17x7 +48
The wheel will be about 1/2 inch further out. They will not rub. They are using scare tactics so you get them to install it. They are lying to you. Nothing special is required after the install of both the springs and wheels, Just an alignment. They will say anything to make a buck... in this case; an extra $2500.

[HachiRokuX]

Originally Posted by swarb

They are 17x7.5 +43(the multispoke bronze wheels?) Stock is 17x7 +48

The wheel will be about 1/2 inch further out. They will not rub. They are using scare tactics so you get them to install it. They are lying to you. Nothing special is required after the install of both the springs and wheels, Just an alignment. They will say anything to make a buck... in this case; an extra $2500.

Thank you, I knew they were lying, just wasn't sure to what extent..so glad I decided to ask here. I'll make sure to install the wheels myself and have a shop do the lowering springs. Thanks again.


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[Student Driver]

Originally Posted by HachiRokuX

Thank you, I knew they were lying, just wasn't sure to what extent..so glad I decided to ask here. I'll make sure to install the wheels myself and have a shop do the lowering springs. Thanks again.


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lowering springs really aren't hard to do yourself and will save you a couple hundred $$$ I did mine in my garage in about 3 hours when I first got my car. just a thought, if you were looking to save a little more

[HachiRokuX]

Hey guys, I actually changed my mind....I'm going with the 18" TRD wheels. I hate sliding at times, so I also want meatier tires.

For the wheels, Toyota offers 18x7 and 18x7.5 wheels, :

PTR5618130
PTR5618131

Does it matter if I get four 18x7 wheels, or is the staggered fit with 18x7.5 in the back better?

And would Yokohama ADVAN NEOVA AD08 R tires with a rear width of 255/35R18 go well with these wheels if I want more grip?

[swarb]

Originally Posted by HachiRokuX

Hey guys, I actually changed my mind....I'm going with the 18" TRD wheels. I hate sliding at times, so I also want meatier tires.

For the wheels, Toyota offers 18x7 and 18x7.5 wheels, :

PTR5618130
PTR5618131

Does it matter if I get four 18x7 wheels, or is the staggered fit with 18x7.5 in the back better?

And would Yokohama ADVAN NEOVA AD08 R tires with a rear width of 255/35R18 go well with these wheels if I want more grip?

Read the tire spec and see the recommended wheel width for the tire.
Offset matters.
7.5 is a better choice, do not stagger for this car, it isn't ideal.
255/35R18 is for a 9+ wheel, 8.5 should work also.
18x7.5 with a 225/40/18 is a good size depending on offset. But a very mild setup that won't rub(depending on offset, 35-45 is a good range) and retain some nimbleness. Going too wide will take that away, but you will gain more grip at the limit.

AD08R's are a little overkill if you don't plan to track your car. Almost anything that is a "summer" tire from a reputable brand will be an upgrade from stock.

Check out reviews on tire rack.

[Ron B Avery]

Originally Posted by HachiRokuX

So basically, I have a few basic upgrades planned. I just want the 2017, 17" Forged TRD wheels, and TRD lowering kit installed. I went to my local dealer and they want to charge $4000 to install everything. That's obviously insane.

Their reasoning was they want to put some blah blah kit on the car along with the lowering springs.

They also said that when you lower a car and add new wheels (with a different offset from stock), you can't just take the old ones off and put the new ones on, the wheels will rub against the tire and you might bust the tire.

None of that sounds right to me, the TRD Forged wheels should just go right on the car. I think the whole process should only cost $1900 (400 for labor on the TRD lowering springs, 1500 on the wheels which I planned to install myself).

AS someone that has done what you would like to do, I thought I would give you some input. I have the 949 wheels, 7 1/2 x 17", with the tires listed below in my signature. I have found this to be a good set up for fast street and maybe a few track days. I did not go with 18" because of the increase in unsprung weight. Also I had just the TRD springs on my 86 that I traded in on my 860. The improvement was huge. The ride was stiffer, but not over the top. Then on my new 860 I added the TRD sway bars ( $1000 installed at the dealer). The improvement is another step up. The ride is no worse at all. But the car corners so flat, and the steering response is great and much faster. Also if you lower the car 1" (as with the TRD springs) be careful of driveways and cement parking space blocks. Especially with any after market splitter. The bottom of the front and lower front end will hit. I stop about a foot from the parking lot blocks, and take driveways at a 45 degree angel.
Ron

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by HachiRokuX

Hey guys, I actually changed my mind....I'm going with the 18" TRD wheels. I hate sliding at times, so I also want meatier tires.

For the wheels, Toyota offers 18x7 and 18x7.5 wheels, :

PTR5618130
PTR5618131

Does it matter if I get four 18x7 wheels, or is the staggered fit with 18x7.5 in the back better?

And would Yokohama ADVAN NEOVA AD08 R tires with a rear width of 255/35R18 go well with these wheels if I want more grip?

255 is not a great selection for either of those sizes.... You say you want meatier tires, you need wider wheels, not bigger ones. There are better offsets available too to help get you wider tires and correct sizing.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by HachiRokuX

Hey guys, I actually changed my mind....I'm going with the 18" TRD wheels. I hate sliding at times, so I also want meatier tires.

For the wheels, Toyota offers 18x7 and 18x7.5 wheels, :

PTR5618130
PTR5618131

Does it matter if I get four 18x7 wheels, or is the staggered fit with 18x7.5 in the back better?

And would Yokohama ADVAN NEOVA AD08 R tires with a rear width of 255/35R18 go well with these wheels if I want more grip?

What about 17x9 ??

[HachiRokuX]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

What about 17x9 ??

I wanted 18s because I plan on installing a supercharger sometime down the road and would be able to install bigger brakes etc..I also wanted to install the TRD bodykit and the black TRD wheels would look great with it.

Just getting forged 17s and keeping the body/engine stock is obviously the wiser/cheaper choice but part of me just wants to go crazy with this car.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by HachiRokuX

I wanted 18s because I plan on installing a supercharger sometime down the road and would be able to install bigger brakes etc..I also wanted to install the TRD bodykit and the black TRD wheels would look great with it.

Just getting forged 17s and keeping the body/engine stock is obviously the wiser/cheaper choice but part of me just wants to go crazy with this car.

Well you say you want meaty, and 18x7 is not meaty at all, that is the stock width. If you wanted something meaty I would suggest getting a width of at least 8.5, that way you can actually put the bigger tires on them.

The TRD wheels are nice, but you won't have a meaty look, you'd have something close to stock because of what would fit properly on the wheel.

[Jollibee86]

If you're afraid of buying used lowering springs, might as well buy quality coilovers and install them yourself. Coilovers are easier to install than lowering springs because it doesn't require the disassembly of the struts. Anything the dealer says is a lie because that's what they do and how they make money. You bought a car that's made to be modified, don't be afraid to go the aftermarket route. Like the others said, the TRD wheels won't be a lot meatier than the stock. And for aesthetics they won't be flush with the wheel well and still look stock. For meatier tires you might want at least a 9.5s in the back to go with 255s or 265s