Yes, yes I nicked the title from 5Live's Fighting Talk... no marks for originality.
The GT86/FRS/BRZ is not fast or hugely powerful. Fact.
Why do people keep trying to counter this point against all the numbers? It is pointless and a complete waste of time.
How many posts into the insideline thread before people who are supposed to see past the numbers started to rationalize slow 0-60s? I thought we weren't supposed to care about that with this car?
It would be flipping great, if people just quit talking about this car's engine output. Yes loads of people not keen on the car wanting to diminish its value will latch onto that - much like fat Oprah on the last KFC chicken leg - but who cares, just concede that point.
Fans of the car enjoy all it's great aspects and people who don't like it, accept what is great about it even if it's not for you, but can we just forget about the 200bhp please