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For anyone reading this please also remember that bar diameter is in no way a direct correlation to the bar rate. Unless you know the wall thickness of a hollow bar, it's material, how it was treated, and the bar-to-wheel motion ratio, you really cant guess at the true influence on wheel rate too accurately.

I was trying to gather all this info before, but essentially gave up because claims and numbers didn't match... need real data, too much coming from the internetz.