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Old 07-10-2017, 10:13 PM   #14
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First of all thank you. Now it's a good idea to start changing, maybe, part by part and with this I mean follow what you did before by starting first with the tweeters, then if I don't like continue with the middle range and so on.

I am not a guy of a unique kind of music and because I am latin I like any kind of music. I was looking at the ones that @Chimera mention over here:
But I think this one that I choose before:
are better? Because are bigger and 3-way?

Anyway found the perfect match could be hard. I just want to make sure to be doing the right thing by changing the whole system once and for all.

@pfaffendorn if you can provide me with some bullet points I'll be more than thankful

If you're going to rewire the whole thing for a new head unit, putting a 3-way speaker in the doors might be a good idea, but if you're going to keep the stock head unit for now, you need to be aware that the stock speaker system is wired for a single one-way speaker in each location. The speakers are equipped with frequency crossovers which deliver only the low frequencies to the 6 1/2 inch bass speaker in the door and pass the rest through to the next in line, the 4 inch midrange in the dash corner. The next crossover gives the middle of the sound spectrum to the 4 inch and passes the rest (the high end) to the one inch tweeter next to it. So you see that using a three-way speaker in the door would be a waste, because in the stock setup, the 2nd and 3rd sections of the 3 way speaker would not get any signal at all. The stock speaker setup IS a three way, but the three speakers are each one-way and are all in different places. I think this might be a good lesson to study on, but if it's something you already understand, please forgive my talk-talk-talk.

The bass speaker is in the door because it's hard to hear the actual point source of the lower notes as you listen to your wide sound stage. You can hear them just fine without knowing where they come from. So the woofer is out of the way in the door, just like your subwoofer could be in the trunk and be heard just fine. But the midrange and high notes are where all the musical detail is, so you want those speakers to aim straight toward you so you can hear where each instrument is located. That's why those speakers are on the dash, so their sound is bounced off the windshield right at you, and the whole windshield becomes your soundstage for listening.

Now, you can go to a lot of trouble and expense to completely redo the whole system, but the designers have gone to a lot of effort to give us a decent audio environment in our cars, even if the cost counters have given us cheap speakers which spoil the whole effect. (Many owners hate the head unit, too, but that's another story, and I haven't gone out on that limb yet.) But if you want to improve your sound a lot, a good place to start would be installing new good quality speakers. I'm cautious, so I just replaced the tweeters for now, but if you wanted to limit your expense to $50-$75 per pair, you could do all of the front speakers for no more than $200, and have a much better sounding system.

What you would need to purchase to do this is:

1 pair hard-dome (aluminum, titanium, bullet, etc.) 1" tweeters. (I chose softer silk-domes, as I said, because I like those high violins to sound smooth and silky, but I believe you would appreciate the sharp, crisp rhythm sounds in latin music to sound their best, so hard-domes will be better.)

1 pair 4" midrange speakers. I had a hard time finding these, as most of them were 2 way, which we know isn't useful for us, so you could choose 4" full-range speakers and just let the crossovers do their work. Some people believe if you use just the midrange of a good extended range speaker, what you use from the middle will be that much more accurate. If you want to do the back seat speakers also, get another pair of these. I use the fader in the head unit to achieve a sort of imitation surround sound from the back which isn't too bad.

1 pair 6 1/2 " woofers. The closer to 40 h at the bottom, the better, but they don't have to reach higher than 1000 h at the top.

Remember, ALL of these speakers should be only one-way if you're planning to use the existing wiring and existing crossovers to divide the sound among them.

Why don't you study on all this until you understand the concepts, and if you decide to start your makeover in this way, start shopping for one-way speakers in the correct sizes. Always feel free to ask me questions, or ask somebody else in the forum who may know more than I do, if you get stuck on something. I am a rube compared to some of these guys.

We'll get to the step-by-step install when you've got the pieces in your hands. Have fun!

P.S.: You mentioned you were hiring someone to install? All my ideas for you are for DIY. If the guy is a professional, some of our knowledge in this post maybe useful to ask him questions to make sure you're getting what you want. It's all up to you.

P.P.S.: And if you want to, you may know that we can make our conversations private instead out in front of the whole forum. I think talking out loud is what makes the forum fun, but it's up to you. We all get some snark from the other guys once in a while. But I've never minded making a fool of myself!
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