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des · 12-26-2012, 03:41 PM

Good idea, Blaine -- maybe the mods can sticky this (and one for SoCal as well)?

Regarding classing: Don't let uncertainty stop you. You'll be competing against other novices. It's very likely that someone in a Civic who has done this once before will be faster than you are your first time out.

If you decide to try it, you'll probably be in one of two classes:

C Stock -- competes against similarly prepared RX-8s, Miatas, Solstices, 370Zs, etc. If your car is pretty much as you drove it home from the dealer, this is your class. You can use any tire that fits on a stock-size wheel, and you can change your exhaust from the cat back. You can do a performance alignment (including the camber bolts). You can change your front sway bar OR your rear sway bar. You can upgrade the shocks, but coilovers aren't allowed. The engine, brakes, body and interior are stock.

STX -- competes against BMWs, prepped RX-8s, WRXs, etc. If you have coilovers, new seats or an intake, this is probably your class. You can also do a full exhaust, clutch-type diff, control arms, bushings, header, high-flow cat and a tune.

If *you* add F/I to your car, it would certainly skip Stock or ST* classing and go into SM. If Subaru or Toyota offers a factory F/I model, it would go through a classing process similar to that for the N/A version, and the same rules regarding tires and shocks and exhaust would apply. For example, the stock Focus is an H Stock car but the turbocharged ST model is G Stock.

How can a novice in an FRS compete against a novice in a Porsche? There is an indexing system that says "this class of car should be X percent faster than this class of car."

Your C Stock BRZ would be expected to be proportionately faster than an H Stock Civic, for example. Your time would be multiplied by .833, and the HS car's time would be multiplied by .799. If he turns in a time of 60 seconds, you would have to run a 57.5 to win.

Once you have a few events under your belt, you can move up to "open" classes, where you can compete only against other C Stock or STX drivers. There it is head to head competition, with no indexing.

This is great fun, and relatively cheap ($35). Ask for help and you'll get faster.

12-26-2012, 03:41 PM	#8
des Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: FR-S Location: Portland Posts: 131 Thanks: 33 Thanked 78 Times in 38 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Good idea, Blaine -- maybe the mods can sticky this (and one for SoCal as well)? Regarding classing: Don't let uncertainty stop you. You'll be competing against other novices. It's very likely that someone in a Civic who has done this once before will be faster than you are your first time out. If you decide to try it, you'll probably be in one of two classes: C Stock -- competes against similarly prepared RX-8s, Miatas, Solstices, 370Zs, etc. If your car is pretty much as you drove it home from the dealer, this is your class. You can use any tire that fits on a stock-size wheel, and you can change your exhaust from the cat back. You can do a performance alignment (including the camber bolts). You can change your front sway bar OR your rear sway bar. You can upgrade the shocks, but coilovers aren't allowed. The engine, brakes, body and interior are stock. STX -- competes against BMWs, prepped RX-8s, WRXs, etc. If you have coilovers, new seats or an intake, this is probably your class. You can also do a full exhaust, clutch-type diff, control arms, bushings, header, high-flow cat and a tune. If you add F/I to your car, it would certainly skip Stock or ST* classing and go into SM. If Subaru or Toyota offers a factory F/I model, it would go through a classing process similar to that for the N/A version, and the same rules regarding tires and shocks and exhaust would apply. For example, the stock Focus is an H Stock car but the turbocharged ST model is G Stock. How can a novice in an FRS compete against a novice in a Porsche? There is an indexing system that says "this class of car should be X percent faster than this class of car." Your C Stock BRZ would be expected to be proportionately faster than an H Stock Civic, for example. Your time would be multiplied by .833, and the HS car's time would be multiplied by .799. If he turns in a time of 60 seconds, you would have to run a 57.5 to win. Once you have a few events under your belt, you can move up to "open" classes, where you can compete only against other C Stock or STX drivers. There it is head to head competition, with no indexing. This is great fun, and relatively cheap ($35). Ask for help and you'll get faster.