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Originally Posted by xantonin
What's the point in 1400 WHP if you can't keep the wheels on the ground? Also, seems to me that is a little high of a number to be asking from a 1.8 litre, regardless of G or F (but I could be wrong).
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Put it to the ground? It's AWD buddy.
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Originally Posted by xantonin
Still, if you ask me I'd sayf 750 WHP is good enough to ask for out of the 2ZZ-GE!!
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Already seen that dyno. I'm on 9thgenCorolla.
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Originally Posted by Dimman
I think what he was getting at, and what Dragon isn't fully understanding, is that if they had built a 2AZGE, or some dedicated 'G' 2.4L it would be more than just the valve angle. Imagine a Toyota dedicated-performance 2.4L L4. It would massacre the 2AZFE in all circumstances, stock, boosted, whatever. Plus likely be capable of way more before any internal mods would need to be invested in, or need as much boost, or money to make whatever power level the chassis could handle, as well as likely be more driveable as well.
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There is a difference between not understanding, and not carrying. Pretty sure I made it clear that I didn't really care it doesn't have a GE head.
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Originally Posted by xantonin
Instead they gave cars to the best teams, with access to factory support (which is more than just money, BTW Dragon)
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Do tell what that is? It ain't advice and technology cause this isn't their first BBQ on building bad ass machines.
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Originally Posted by xantonin
to make some exceptional racing cars, that inspire a few people to try to emulate that. That's marketing. That is the only reason people bothered to turbo a Camry motor. (The fact that it performs well under boost isn't amazing news. But there is no recent Toyota 'G'/Performance motor to compare against.)
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FYI....people were boosted before Rado came along and destroyed records with it. I was one of those people.
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Originally Posted by Exage
It could have been enough that peoples perception of Scion would have been slightly different then that of today. Particularly if the "theoretical" stock tC was able to stand its ground or beat the Civic Si, GTI, Sentra SE-R...
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It does hold it's ground. The SI for example, won't pass a tC until after the 1/8th mile. No comparison on road courses that I'm aware of.
Doubt though the engine would have made that much of a difference as most hate the marketing strategy of Scion more than the cars themselves, as most aren't even aware of how it performs.