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Forum: FR-S / BRZ vs.... 08-18-2012, 11:09 AM
Replies: 172
Views: 55,624
Posted By alluringreality
Any article by Jack Baruth requires reading...

Any article by Jack Baruth requires reading between the lines, or to put it another way, trying to make sense of complete nonsense. In the 2nd part of his comparison between the FR-S, Genesis Coupe,...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 08-17-2012, 06:33 PM
Replies: 36
Views: 15,897
Posted By alluringreality
I don't consider these three cars direct...

I don't consider these three cars direct competitors, so I'd suggest visiting some car dealerships to make your own opinion.



He asked about the Altima coupe, which has not been updated to...
Forum: Cosmetic Maintenance (Wash, Wax, Detailing, Body Repairs) 08-17-2012, 01:33 PM
Replies: 65
Views: 15,516
Posted By alluringreality
I'm not sure what products are generally regarded...

I'm not sure what products are generally regarded as better when it comes to a long lasting coating to replace repeated wax or sealant application.
Forum: BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics 08-12-2012, 12:18 PM
Replies: 295
Views: 125,528
Posted By alluringreality
Money Auto in Kansas currently has their only BRZ...

Money Auto in Kansas currently has their only BRZ on the lot. It's Silver with pinstripes, and they're asking MSRP....
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 08-10-2012, 08:38 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 5,608
Posted By alluringreality
All season tires were previously reported to be...

All season tires were previously reported to be coming at http://www.cars.com/scion/fr-s/2013/expert-reviews/?revid=58456 but this is the first I've heard they're arriving. We get little snow, so...
Forum: FR-S / BRZ vs.... 08-08-2012, 07:59 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 10,691
Posted By alluringreality
I think most reasonable people would place a...

I think most reasonable people would place a 3-series or TSX far higher on the family hauler scale than a BRZ.
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 08-07-2012, 10:25 PM
Replies: 111
Views: 26,431
Posted By alluringreality
I'm not sure it's possible for mere mortals to...

I'm not sure it's possible for mere mortals to comprehend TTAC, but here is a summary:

- The target market for the FR-S is Gen-Y that lives with their parents, the sort of people that don't know...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 08-06-2012, 10:08 PM
Replies: 87
Views: 28,593
Posted By alluringreality
Baby daddy a Mazda.

Baby daddy a Mazda.
Forum: BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics 08-06-2012, 12:38 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 7,848
Posted By alluringreality
The Subaru invoice is higher than Scion MSRP, and...

The Subaru invoice is higher than Scion MSRP, and Truecar estimates that BRZ dealer cost is more than a thousand over the FR-S. Assuming neither car was supply restricted, I think the safe bet is...
Forum: BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics 08-02-2012, 02:28 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 13,294
Posted By alluringreality
The June and July numbers taken out to a year...

The June and July numbers taken out to a year would be around 30k cars in the US, which is generally in line with most speculation. That's certainly above Miata, 370Z, or RX-8 sales. The combined...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 07-31-2012, 11:02 PM
Replies: 125
Views: 39,005
Posted By alluringreality
Also remember it probably makes sense to ignore...

Also remember it probably makes sense to ignore TTAC commentary, except maybe for stupid entertainment. It's the same site that tried downplaying reports of possible BRZ supply constraints, after the...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 07-26-2012, 01:51 PM
Replies: 21
Views: 10,617
Posted By alluringreality
I figured the next two interesting cars for my...

I figured the next two interesting cars for my budget to come out after the ATS would be the next-generation WRX and Miata, but neither made their 2014 model year list.
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 07-20-2012, 09:16 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 9,079
Posted By alluringreality
The automatic on this car is: - Convenient (can...

The automatic on this car is:
- Convenient (can switch gears without driver input)
- Geared for better fuel economy than the manual
- Likely to shift quicker than the average manual driver
- Able...
Forum: BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics 07-19-2012, 01:33 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 8,848
Posted By alluringreality
The controls on the demo car is similar to what...

The controls on the demo car is similar to what Subaru uses on the Impreza, where the right side is the cruise. If this car eventually gets steering wheel controls they will probably be Toyota's...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 07-18-2012, 06:40 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 8,003
Posted By alluringreality
I think I would pass on leather seats.

I think I would pass on leather seats.
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 07-17-2012, 08:53 AM
Replies: 34
Views: 9,079
Posted By alluringreality
I figure someone with H2 and GT-R on their...

I figure someone with H2 and GT-R on their vehicle list might be into conspicuous consumption, but maybe they secretly want a cheap used Honda or Toyota.



A new FR-S will probably depreciate a...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 07-16-2012, 02:04 PM
Replies: 34
Views: 9,079
Posted By alluringreality
I think this is rather silly considering he owned...

I think this is rather silly considering he owned an H2 and is considering a GT-R. A worst-case scenario still probably doesn't place FR-S depreciation remotely close to those vehicles.
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 07-11-2012, 02:00 PM
Replies: 127
Views: 57,937
Posted By alluringreality
My takeaway is that you did not address the...

My takeaway is that you did not address the "Invisible" Dealer Profits discussed in the Edmunds link.



Do you think as a Verizon employee you bought time at a lower rate than the company sells...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 07-11-2012, 08:49 AM
Replies: 127
Views: 57,937
Posted By alluringreality
Going back to the Edmunds description of...

Going back to the Edmunds description of holdback, I fail to see what good it is to look at the invoice. Unless you own the dealership, or take care of all the transactions with Toyota, why would it...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 07-09-2012, 07:51 PM
Replies: 127
Views: 57,937
Posted By alluringreality
Truecar agrees with you that invoice for a Mini...

Truecar agrees with you that invoice for a Mini is dealer cost, but how does that support your claim about Scion? I finally found the link where FR-S employee pricing was posted. Do you seriously...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 07-09-2012, 02:24 PM
Replies: 127
Views: 57,937
Posted By alluringreality
Personally I also check Black Book pricing using...

Personally I also check Black Book pricing using Clearbook.com and aim for whichever is most in my favor.
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 07-09-2012, 02:11 PM
Replies: 127
Views: 57,937
Posted By alluringreality
Truecar lists dealer cost as being below invoice...

Truecar lists dealer cost as being below invoice price. The price of the car less dealer cost would be dealer profit.



The Edmunds holdback listing supports this statement. I don't believe they...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 07-08-2012, 03:24 PM
Replies: 66
Views: 22,534
Posted By alluringreality
There are very few cars that actually fit this...

There are very few cars that actually fit this criteria. There's the 2013 GS hybrid, the M35h is rated at 29 MPG combined, and there's the electric Tesla. I'll take it that you actually mean a 30 MPG...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 07-08-2012, 02:19 PM
Replies: 66
Views: 22,534
Posted By alluringreality
I have doubts about the usefulness of the EPA...

I have doubts about the usefulness of the EPA test, but the FR-S with a manual has a higher EPA rating than the 2008 revision for your car.
...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 07-07-2012, 04:17 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 6,511
Posted By alluringreality
So far the Insideline fuel economy is somewhat...

So far the Insideline fuel economy is somewhat similar between their CVT Impreza Sport and their manual FR-S. Although the EPA rates the combined fuel economy 5 MPG higher for the Impreza, their fuel...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 07-07-2012, 01:34 PM
Replies: 127
Views: 57,937
Posted By alluringreality
I'm not sure why you seem to think the car costs...

I'm not sure why you seem to think the car costs the dealership invoice, but Truecar lists profit on the FR-S sold at MSRP over $1700. Dealer profit appears a few hundred higher on the BRZ sold at...
Forum: BRZ Photos, Videos, Wallpapers, Gallery Forum 07-07-2012, 08:26 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 5,975
Posted By alluringreality
The US stereos have a wider face, so there is...

The US stereos have a wider face, so there is extra space at the outside edges if you install a standard stereo in a US car. Subaru uses typical double DIN stereos on other Canada cars, but this was...
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 07-06-2012, 09:46 AM
Replies: 24
Views: 6,909
Posted By alluringreality
The Autotrader, Cars.com, and even dealership...

The Autotrader, Cars.com, and even dealership website listings cannot really be relied upon for accurate information in my opinion. The new inventories often contain items like reserved cars,...
Forum: BRZ Photos, Videos, Wallpapers, Gallery Forum 07-05-2012, 10:08 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 5,975
Posted By alluringreality
If I get a BRZ I want the Canada model spacer to...

If I get a BRZ I want the Canada model spacer to fit a standard double DIN stereo.
Forum: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 07-05-2012, 06:47 PM
Replies: 844
Views: 365,019
Posted By alluringreality
Subaru of America seems to be carrying through on...

Subaru of America seems to be carrying through on the plan of a limited allocation through November.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3933
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