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Forum: FR-S / BRZ vs....

07-01-2012, 06:59 AM

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BRZ vs Mustang - Here is the review the haters have been waiting for.

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Posted By ZDan

For the small track, braking, skidpad, and figure...

For the small track, braking, skidpad, and figure 8, it is ALL down to Pirelli PZeros being >>> Michelin Primacy HP tires. Those are tests of tires more so than cars.

On stock-size Dunlop...

Forum: FR-S / BRZ vs....

05-04-2012, 09:50 PM

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BRZ vs Mustang - Here is the review the haters have been waiting for.

Views: 181,554

Posted By ZDan

I never said or implied that you *should* only...

I never said or implied that you *should* only look at tire width per weight.

You said:

The Mustang *does* have a larger contact patch, but not because it's tires are wider and larger...

Forum: FR-S / BRZ vs....

05-04-2012, 05:02 PM

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BRZ vs Mustang - Here is the review the haters have been waiting for.

Views: 181,554

Posted By ZDan

Never heard of anyone testing any car for 0-60...

Never heard of anyone testing any car for 0-60 with a 5' rollout.

One of the mags *does* give a roll-on 5mph to 60mph acceleration time, which is always SLOWER due to bogging.

And I think MT...

Forum: FR-S / BRZ vs....

05-04-2012, 03:23 PM

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BRZ vs Mustang - Here is the review the haters have been waiting for.

Views: 181,554

Posted By ZDan

They have big wheels to house huge BRAKES, which...

They have big wheels to house huge BRAKES, which higher-hp cars NEED. V6 Mustang doesn't need anything like the brakes that those cars do, and FR-S/BRZ doesn't need brakes as big as the Mustang.

...

Forum: FR-S / BRZ vs....

05-04-2012, 10:22 AM

Replies: 458

BRZ vs Mustang - Here is the review the haters have been waiting for.

Views: 181,554

Posted By ZDan

1. Bigger tires don't necessarily give a bigger...

1. Bigger tires don't necessarily give a bigger contact patch.
2. Bigger contact patch doesn't necessarily give greater grip

Bigger contact patch at the same loading per square inch will...

Forum: FR-S / BRZ vs....

05-04-2012, 06:04 AM

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BRZ vs Mustang - Here is the review the haters have been waiting for.

Views: 181,554

Posted By ZDan

I strongly disagree here. Taller tires don't...

I strongly disagree here. Taller tires don't give a lateral grip advantage.
1. at similar inflation pressures, contact patch area is a function of load. Same make/model tires on these cars, the...

Forum: FR-S / BRZ vs....

05-04-2012, 05:46 AM

Replies: 458

BRZ vs Mustang - Here is the review the haters have been waiting for.

Views: 181,554

Posted By ZDan

Yes. It was outRUN on the track, not...

Yes.

It was outRUN on the track, not outCLASSed. I'd argue the opposite.

Power/weight and tires are easily the two biggest factors in going fast, and the Track Pack Mustang has it over...

Forum: FR-S / BRZ vs....

05-03-2012, 10:49 PM

Replies: 458

BRZ vs Mustang - Here is the review the haters have been waiting for.

Views: 181,554

Posted By ZDan

Actually, the FR-S/BRZ on 215s has more tire...

Actually, the FR-S/BRZ on 215s has more tire width per weight than the V6 Mustang on 255s.

With both on same make/model tires in the respective OEM sizings, I wouldn't bet against the Toyobaru...

Forum: FR-S / BRZ vs....

05-03-2012, 10:45 PM

Replies: 458

BRZ vs Mustang - Here is the review the haters have been waiting for.

Views: 181,554

Posted By ZDan

Ah well, might be a bit of a relief from all the...

Ah well, might be a bit of a relief from all the bowtie and blue oval fanbois over the ages...

This is news to pretty much no one.

Corvette?

Analogy: Budweiser can get you just as drunk...

Forum: FR-S / BRZ vs....

05-03-2012, 04:54 PM

Replies: 458

BRZ vs Mustang - Here is the review the haters have been waiting for.

Views: 181,554

Posted By ZDan

EPA ratings for manual trans cars: FR-S/BRZ =...

EPA ratings for manual trans cars:
FR-S/BRZ = 22 city/30 hwy/25 combined
V6 Mustang = 19 city/29 hwy/ 22 combined

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