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yomchi1989 01-17-2013 07:59 PM

Midrange speaker in dash?
 
Does anyone know if you can fit a 4" here? or is it just a 3"?

fuddbutter 01-17-2013 08:19 PM

4in should slide in easy..

st162celica 01-17-2013 08:27 PM

Im sure you can fit a 4 inch in there...

Have a look at some of the audio builds...
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=27




2013 Scion FR-S:

Front Tweeter x 2 (On dash)
90 mm (3.5 in.)
4 Ω, 21 W

Front Speaker x 2 (On dash)
25 mm (1.0 in.)
4 Ω, 21 W

Front Woofer x 2 (In door)
160 mm (6.3 in.)
2 Ω, 33 W

Rear Speaker x 2
90 mm (3.5 in.)
4 Ω, 21 W


I just have the stock speakers connected to my amp and they seem pretty fine to me.

I wouldnt replace the speakers if you are going to run them off the headunit only. If you are going to amp them then go ahead.


I just have the stock speakers connected to my amp and they seem pretty fine to me.
100w rms per channel - Prob too much power, but it was an amp I already had.

Righty 01-17-2013 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuddbutter (Post 672301)
4in should slide in easy..

That's what she said.

Flat Black VW 01-17-2013 10:10 PM

I put 4" in the dash with a 1" tweeter, took some trimming but not too much. Running those plus a new 6.5" in the door off of the factory BRZ NAV and it sounds great.

yomchi1989 01-18-2013 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flat Black VW (Post 672593)
I put 4" in the dash with a 1" tweeter, took some trimming but not too much. Running those plus a new 6.5" in the door off of the factory BRZ NAV and it sounds great.

Are you saying you had to trim the 4" to make it fit in the hole?

yomchi1989 01-18-2013 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuddbutter (Post 672301)
4in should slide in easy..

I have been told by the guy at Tonkins that 3" is the max...
How do you know 4" will work easy?

fuddbutter 01-18-2013 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yomchi1989 (Post 672997)
I have been told by the guy at Tonkins that 3" is the max...
How do you know 4" will work easy?

Cause my 4" will fit in any hole?? :|

Well, i guess it depends on your speaker, as Flat Black said, he had to trim, which he would mean from the plastic in the hole, which wouldn't surprise me.
Some speakers say they are a certain size, but need a bigger cutout.

I have pulled out 10in subs, that seem to float in the cutout, and put other 10in subs that needed me to make the hole bigger.


I guess what i should ask is, what do you plan on putting in there, are you replacing all the speakers? or are you just wanting to add a 4in speaker?

If you are replacing them all, are you putting in a 3 way setup just cause you can?
How much do you want to spend?

Personally, if you haven't had years of experience with 3 way setups, i wouldn't use them, for two reasons.
1: they are very hard to set up correctly
2: price.

the second one ill explain

say you have a budget of $500.
for that you would get some very good two way splits, but you would get some average three way splits all because you are splitting that money over 6 speakers instead of 4.
The cheapest 3 way splits i would buy would be Crescendo's 7B's which RRP at $799 http://www.ozbliss.com/products_cres...s_7B-3Way.html

These actually sound fantastic! but you would want a good quality amp and head unit to get the most of them.

Personally, I will be running a 2 way set up, a set of CDT splits, 6.5in midbass and 1in tweeter.
The tweeter may be replaced with a large format tweeter such as a Vifa ring radiator as i used to use, which is about 4in in diameter..

Anyway, may have gotten a bit carried away there :D

st162celica 01-18-2013 03:58 AM

^^^^
Very informative there.

Yes, 4inch would fit in any hole. :) lol

Trueno86 01-18-2013 04:57 AM

So say I bought a pair of pioneer 4in from JB, is it as simple as popping the grille, attaching the cables and screw the speakers in?

Panman 01-18-2013 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trueno86 (Post 673148)
So say I bought a pair of pioneer 4in from JB, is it as simple as popping the grille, attaching the cables and screw the speakers in?


No I think he explained fairly clearly that it may not be the case.

All 4" hole jokes aside - a couple of people have stated very specifically in this thread that speakers can be different sizes even though they are nominally 4" your mileage may vary.

BRZRR 01-18-2013 06:48 AM

no, you will need to custom mount them and possibly trim areas unless they are very compact.

fuddbutter 01-18-2013 07:42 AM

When i stop being the laziest man alive, and also stop spending money on my pushy, i will install my stereo and take heaps of photos and post them up, and any issue i find etc.

My stereo will be fairly basic, New headunit, front speakers, 5 channel amp and 10in sub.

Flat Black VW 01-18-2013 12:31 PM

I dont think any decent 4" will fit without any trimming. I am running the Focal 100 KRS up there which are a slim and fairly small 4" speaker and trimming needed to be done.

for reference:
http://www.focal-america.com/wp-cont...8031923360.jpg

Its not a lot of trimming though, totally worth it IMO. Another option I was playing with was some Hertz HL70, which is a 3" and would need an adapter to fill the hole, but I decided to go with the larger Focals for a number of reasons.


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