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RHoop 11-19-2019 12:23 PM

New guy
 
Hello. I'm a former Mustang GT guy. Before the Mustang, I had an S2000. Seems like one of the BRZ/86 twins might be my next fun car. Why is it that when I look on autotrader, all the 2019-2020 86's are either black or green (and there are a lot of them on the lot, both 2019's and 2020's)?

And the BRZ'S are very hard to find? Searching on Subaru's website, the 5 Houston dealers, who each have 200-300 Subaru's in stock, show only 2 BRZ'S in stock. I'm near Houston, and would like to buy a blue BRZ/86. Any advice? Are the BRZ's really in high demand /short supply, or can you still get a discount from MSRP?

(You can tell all I've done is Internet research so far, can't pull the trigger until early next year.)

Next step is probably the Edelbrock supercharger. Is there a shop in the Houston or Austin area that I should consider for the SC install and tuning? I'm not looking to race, just have a good handling, decently powerful car to drive. The car would share DD duty with my Wrangler.

Thanks.

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Sapphireho 11-19-2019 12:30 PM

Go to a dealer and tell them you want a blue one.

HaXx 11-19-2019 12:39 PM

yeah, the brz is typically more rare, despite the frs/brz being more of a subaru creation than a toyota. i second your motion to supercharge, thats what i did, its simpler than people let you believe. something to consider is you can often get the brembos if you go w/ brz

8RZ 11-19-2019 12:45 PM

Welcome and good luck with the search, the car is a blast to drive.

DarkPira7e 11-19-2019 01:21 PM

Welcome! hopefully you follow through with the purchase. Why are you set on a BRZ? Also, are you against a used one that's a few years old? I can understand if so, just curious. The cost between new and used would easily be the supercharger and the associated install cost..

Dadhawk 11-19-2019 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RHoop (Post 3276624)
And the BRZ'S are very hard to find? ....Are the BRZ's really in high demand /short supply, or can you still get a discount from MSRP?k

It's part of the agreement between Toyota and Subaru. They build a higher percentage of them as Toyotas as they come down the line. I don't know the global difference but you can see it in US sales figures (from carsalesbase.com)

The percentage is the percent of BRZs in overall sales in the US. It would represent the approximate build rate I would think depending on whether they sell the same ratio globally.

RHoop 11-19-2019 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkPira7e (Post 3276642)
Welcome! hopefully you follow through with the purchase. Why are you set on a BRZ? Also, are you against a used one that's a few years old? I can understand if so, just curious. The cost between new and used would easily be the supercharger and the associated install cost..

I'm not absolutely set on a BRZ/86, but it seems like the best fit for me, most bang for the buck. The BMW Z4 looks interesting, but it's a $55k car with the 2 liter, and no option for a manual tranny. On a side note, autotrader shows more blue Z4's in the US than blue BRZ's. One local dealer has 3 Z4's, two are demo's, all have the 3 liter. What other car should I consider?

I'm not against a low mileage used one, I just think a lot of these cars get modded and driven hard, and the supercharger will stress the engine too, so probably better to start with a fresh engine.

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DarkPira7e 11-19-2019 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RHoop (Post 3276650)
I'm not absolutely set on a BRZ/86, but it seems like the best fit for me, most bang for the buck. The BMW Z4 looks interesting, but it's
a $55k car with the 2 liter. On a side note, autotrader shows more blue Z4's in the US than blue BRZ's. One local dealer has 3 Z4's, two are demo's, all have the 3 liter. What other car should I consider?

I'm not against a low mileage used one, I just think a lot of these cars get modded and driven hard, and the supercharger will stress the engine too, so probably better to start with a fresh engine.

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Haha no I meant why not get an 86 or FR-S instead of a BRZ. I wouldn't ever push someone away from these cars until they own one and decide they don't like it.

While some of them may be driven hard, honestly you could say the same about most vehicles, they're just driven hard in different ways. I'd trust a car that gets beat doing 0-60s at street lights, than one where mom has the car in drive at 6k RPM before it has finished turning over and never changes the oil. With low mileage, I don't think much ownership would render it " damaged". With 20k miles and never having changed the oil, it's not like the engine is doomed to failure and will fare any worse than a new car.

Sapphireho 11-19-2019 02:15 PM

Most of these cars are purchased by people that just drive them, like any other car.

Stephen W. 11-19-2019 03:29 PM

It seems like the Limited Edition Hakone Toyota 86 (green) was the first of the 2020 models to hit US soil. If the black ones you see are 2019's than they are probably left over Limited Edition TRD models. The rest of the 2020 range will be coming however, Subaru appears to show up later than Toyota. (Even though both are built in the same factory.) By the time you're in the position to buy there'll be lots to choose from.

Grady 11-19-2019 03:40 PM

Yes go to the dealer you trust, tell them what you want in your BRZ (color, ect) Get the PP! Tell them what you will pay for it. If they want a sale they will find you a car. Had a Honda dealer pull a CRZ from Houston just to make a sale.

RHoop 11-19-2019 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Grady (Post 3276708)
Yes go to the dealer you trust, tell them what you want in your BRZ (color, ect) Get the PP! Tell them what you will pay for it. If they want a sale they will find you a car. Had a Honda dealer pull a CRZ from Houston just to make a sale.

Thumbs up on the Performance Package!

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Ultramaroon 11-19-2019 04:44 PM

Drive a few before going too deeply down the rabbit hole. V8 torque aside, the little fa20 is an acquired taste in its own right. I love it but I'm a fan of quirkiness in general.


This forum is littered with stories of buyer's remorse.

Milhouse86 11-19-2019 04:49 PM

A stock twin is the most fun you can have behind the wheel of a slow car!


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