Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB

Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/index.php)
-   Tracking / Autocross / HPDE / Drifting (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=39)
-   -   Power steering issue with slicks? (https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90718)

owenxguo 06-27-2015 12:51 PM

Power steering issue with slicks?
 
I got some new Hankook slicks for previous race, it was my first time run with slicks on BRZ. However with slicks the power steering stops working(or feel like no power steering) sometimes, mostly during high speed turns, some low speed turns too. But when I switch back to AD08R the problem disappeared. 2 of my other friends has same issue on their GT86, so I assuming this is a common problem with our cars??? I was wondering if any of you found out solution to fix this issue?

troek 06-28-2015 10:22 PM

I had this happen to me on rs-3s this weekend right after a right hand sweeper transitions quickly to a sharp left. felt like i was driving a go kart for a second. theres a more extensive thread about this somewhere on here, by i think evasive motor sports or element tuning.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=250538

ja1217 06-29-2015 01:18 PM

Yeah, this seems to be pretty common on the track, especially when you start using stickier tires. It happens to me all the time and you just get used to it. I'm so used to it now that I didn't even remember that this was an issue until I let someone else drive my car on the track and he complained about the steering getting weird at times.

AZP Installs 06-30-2015 06:53 AM

If you are getting the sensation that the PS isn't working, it means that your car is too low for those slicks. We had this issue when running Continental Race Tires, we raised the car slightly and the binding went away in the turns.

-mike

troek 06-30-2015 08:20 AM

what is actually binding, the tie rods at too extreme of an angle? im lowered only 30 mm and not even on slicks.

owenxguo 07-02-2015 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZP Installs (Post 2304408)
If you are getting the sensation that the PS isn't working, it means that your car is too low for those slicks. We had this issue when running Continental Race Tires, we raised the car slightly and the binding went away in the turns.

-mike

I will try raise the car a bit and try, my car is running complete racerX arms with whiteline roll center adjuster tie rod joint, and I am not a fan lower my car a lot, didn't thought this way.

Sleepless 07-02-2015 01:01 AM

My impression is that this happens while trail braking too hard and ABS is about to engage. Easing off the brakes just a bit makes it go away.

I wonder if there is a power drop to the steering due to power used by ABS??

FingR-S 07-02-2015 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sleepless (Post 2306961)
My impression is that this happens while trail braking too hard and ABS is about to engage. Easing off the brakes just a bit makes it go away.

I wonder if there is a power drop to the steering due to power used by ABS??



I've experienced the same thing - My car is lowered as well on 245 17 RS-3's
I've learned not to trail brake on tight, high G corners. It definitely feels like ABS kicking in when you don't want it.. possibly affecting power steering.
I haven't tried the same tight roads with the pedal dance engaged (all aides off). I always run with TC turned off, but not the pedal dance as much. I need to try this and see if that helps at all.

Sleepless 07-02-2015 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FingR-S (Post 2307728)
I've experienced the same thing - My car is lowered as well on 245 17 RS-3's
I've learned not to trail brake on tight, high G corners. It definitely feels like ABS kicking in when you don't want it.. possibly affecting power steering.
I haven't tried the same tight roads with the pedal dance engaged (all aides off). I always run with TC turned off, but not the pedal dance as much. I need to try this and see if that helps at all.

I always use pedal dance.

Mine is lowered 20mm.

Have experienced this on several tires: PSS, AD08, RE11, NT01 and Z2 Star Spec

Pat 06-02-2016 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZP Installs (Post 2304408)
If you are getting the sensation that the PS isn't working, it means that your car is too low for those slicks. We had this issue when running Continental Race Tires, we raised the car slightly and the binding went away in the turns.

-mike

FWIW I experience this on stock suspension with BFG R1S tires.

zdr93523 06-04-2016 02:31 AM

I run Pirelli DH Slicks and have the same thing occur. I think it is definitely the fact that we have waaaay more grip than the system was designed to operate with.

Fish Eagle 06-04-2016 02:42 AM

I get the same with stock suspension and semi-slicks.
I'm so used to it, I don't notice it anymore.

Cybmx 06-27-2017 07:29 AM

Anyone got a fix for this yet?

Icecreamtruk 06-27-2017 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cybmx (Post 2936047)
Anyone got a fix for this yet?

Man handle the steering wheel. The steering still works, you just have to use more force on it. Think of it this way, if you arent getting to the point it shuts off, you can still corner faster there :burnrubber:


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:11 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.


Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.