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suzuka 07-01-2012 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Shagaliscious (Post 290975)
Fine, putting that GM motor in a Porsche is blasphemy. Does that make you feel better?

We may call it "sacrilegious" & "blasphemy" to the guy you saw did to his 944 but...

Porsche has not made front longitudinal engine-mounted rear drive car for decades now, and I bet Porsche 944's chassis usually outlasts the life of the engine...

... so that makes LS swap the only logical choice.



The scenario above is ideally the ethical way to do the engine swap, especially if the chassis has outlasted the engine and the manufacturer no longer offers parts & support for the engine.

fknlo 07-01-2012 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Shagaliscious (Post 290975)
Fine, putting that GM motor in a Porsche is blasphemy. Does that make you feel better?

You'll really hate this then.

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Thunderchicken 07-01-2012 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by suzuka (Post 291018)
We may call it "sacrilegious" & "blasphemy" but.....

Porsche has not made front longitudinal engine-mounted rear drive car for decades now, and Porsche's chassis usually outlasts the life of the engine...

... so that makes LS swap the only logical choice.



The scenario above is ideally the ethical way to do the engine swap, especially if the chassis has outlasted the engine and the manufacturer no longer offers parts & support for the engine.

Porsche makes 4.8 V8 and has made it for quite sometime and is in the Cayenne and the Panamera.

The only reason to go outside of the Porsche line of motors it because they are much much more $$$$. When you can get a LSX motor for a couple of Thousand and want to do it on the cheap.

Shagaliscious 07-01-2012 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by fknlo (Post 291027)

:paddle:

Mitch 07-02-2012 01:04 AM

God forbid the motor blows and I'm at fault, you better believe I'm going to try to cram an LSx in there.

spiller 07-02-2012 01:10 AM

If I own my car long enough to the point where the warranty is long expired and I no longer care about resale, this is something I wouldn't hesitate to do. Although it would not be a cheap nor easy exercise, you'd have a damn serious car. I think dry sumping would be your only option given the low hood line of this car.

Mishimoto 07-02-2012 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Shagaliscious (Post 290801)
When I was in college there was a kid with a Porsche 944 with a LS1 in it. Blasphemy if you ask me.

I can see where your coming from with this. I personally had a 944 N/A as a daily for some time. They are prone to T-Belt snapping and the power from the 2.5 is not overly impressive. The car was a blast to drive and I can just imagine what doubling the power would do.:confused0068:

If it were mine, I would probably do it. If the car was a 951, that would be a different story.:party0030:

Have a good day

ZDan 07-02-2012 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by spiller (Post 291269)
I think dry sumping would be your only option given the low hood line of this car.

FR-S hoodline is a lot higher than an S2000 or FD RX-7, wet-sump oil pan LS engines have gone into those without major difficulties...

LSX FR-S/BRZ would be kick-ass, but the weight distribution isn't conducive to putting big power down. LS swapped into a 240Z, RX-7, or S2000 will still result in ~50/50 weight distribution (my FD measured exactly 50.0/50.0 with driver and 1/2 tank). FR-S is 55/45 stock, even if that is maintained it's a lot less weight on the drive wheels => less forward thrust available in the lower gears.

But it would still be a ton of fun :D

wcbjr 07-02-2012 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Freed Engineering (Post 290787)
Heard someone is already working on it..... sadly.

I am hoping for it, personally.

Synack 07-02-2012 11:05 AM

I haven't Googled it yet but have we seen a 2JZ-GTE in it yet?

dsgerbc 07-02-2012 11:24 AM

Weight f/r weight distribution might be close to stock, but the roll couple most certainly won't be. So people are okay with ruining car's hadling in their quest for more power, but that begs the question why did they buy this car in the first place?

Nezz 07-02-2012 11:51 AM

LSx motors don't rev the way I like, for my taste. Just my taste, mind. That said they are powerful and relatively light, provided you don't cheap out and buy an old one like so many people who do LS swaps do-- they say "it weighs the same" without actually weighing the one they're putting in then wonder why their car handles like crap all of a sudden.

I don't honestly know if you'd get an LSx into this chas' without causing some balance issues. Why not just a big boxer? Be interesting to see an air-cooled Porsche 6 in it. .. ruin the weight balance, again, but hey.

PS; I'm not saying, before the LS guys jump all over me, that it's not a flexible, useful engine. I just love things that scream. And if they don't scream they have to howl. Rumbles aren't my thing-- give me a Chev DZ302, balanced and set up for 9,000 RPM. That's a V8 to my taste.

FreedE 07-02-2012 12:07 PM

I wouldn't want my FR-S to sound like a Harley..... just my opinion.

FT-86GOD 07-02-2012 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by suzuka (Post 290830)
Doubling the output while not disturbing the weight distribution is simply too good to pass. With LS's favorable packaging, I bet it can also be mounted low too.


Only if u were to run a custom dry sump... Wouldnt be very cheap....



I just sold my manual Ute that had an LS2 in it.... I love the LS motors but i wouldnt drop into the 86... Id prefer to look at a Cosworth set up.... But there will be plenty of 86 LS powered cars getting around in the future.... A pic of my ute...http://liveimages.carsales.com.au/ca...2362945114.jpg 400rwhp in 1500kg and no weight over the back wheels always kept me busy lol.......


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