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8inchAzN 02-24-2019 10:46 PM

Subaru vs Toyota air filter
 
I was wondering if there is a difference between an MY17 Subaru vs Toyota air filters. After doing some research, it seems the manuals do not have a large aftermarket support for the air filters. Can I just call up my local Subaru/ Toyota and go for the cheaper option or is there a consensus that one is better than the other?

Bonburner 02-24-2019 11:22 PM

They are the same.
There is no change from 2013 model to current model respective to air filter size/dimensions. So you have TONS to pick from.

Edit - oops, I'm wrong. MT 2017+ are different.

86MLR 02-24-2019 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonburner (Post 3189261)
They are the same.
There is no change from 2013 model to current model respective to air filter size/dimensions. So you have TONS to pick from.

Incorrect mate

2017+ manual have different airbox.

2017+ auto still uses pre 17

K&N and Blitz do aftermarket

Paper elements have more surface area than cotton

OEM 17+ paper element doesn't see a restriction as it has near on twice the surface area as the old design

Lots of different p/n's will fit, but most are cotton

I recommend OEM paper.

churchx 02-24-2019 11:51 PM

86MLR: also might be incorrect USDM vs EUDM, as later lacks many of intake/exhaust/tune updates vs former, if i remember correctly

86MLR 02-25-2019 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by churchx (Post 3189270)
86MLR: also might be incorrect USDM vs EUDM, as later lacks many of intake/exhaust/tune updates vs former, if i remember correctly

Ack on EU getting the old kit, but isn't Markham in Canadia?

I thought that AUD, JDM, USD, and, ummm, Canadia all had the same upgrades.

I am happy to be proved wrong, a lesson learnt and all that...

OP: Where are you, hold your hand up high so I can see you....

8inchAzN 02-25-2019 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 86MLR (Post 3189290)
Ack on EU getting the old kit, but isn't Markham in Canadia?

I thought that AUD, JDM, USD, and, ummm, Canadia all had the same upgrades.

I am happy to be proved wrong, a lesson learnt and all that...

OP: Where are you, hold your hand up high so I can see you....

Correct, I am in Canadia.

Seems like Toyota and Subaru both use the same filters.

8inchAzN 02-25-2019 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by 86MLR (Post 3189265)
Incorrect mate

2017+ manual have different airbox.

2017+ auto still uses pre 17

K&N and Blitz do aftermarket

Paper elements have more surface area than cotton

OEM 17+ paper element doesn't see a restriction as it has near on twice the surface area as the old design

Lots of different p/n's will fit, but most are cotton

I recommend OEM paper.

So I just called Toyota and Subaru, they want 23$ vs 48$ respectively. However, the guy told me that the 2017 air filters are the same part for the MT and the AT. Skeptical, I called another dealer and they told me the same thing. Now I am curious lol.

Tcoat 02-25-2019 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 8inchAzN (Post 3189326)
So I just called Toyota and Subaru, they want 23$ vs 48$ respectively. However, the guy told me that the 2017 air filters are the same part for the MT and the AT. Skeptical, I called another dealer and they told me the same thing. Now I am curious lol.

They are wrong if a MT but correct if an AT


The MT 17s use a much higher flow filter and intake. There is really no benefits to an aftermarket one so they never really got into it.
The AT 17s use the same as the 13+ so there are benefits to changing it and there are loads of options.


Just get whichever is cheaper.

8inchAzN 02-25-2019 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3189329)
They are wrong if a MT but correct if an AT


The MT 17s use a much higher flow filter and intake. There is really no benefits to an aftermarket one so they never really got into it.
The AT 17s use the same as the 13+ so there are benefits to changing it and there are loads of options.


Just get whichever is cheaper.

When I asked regarding 2017MT vs a 2017 AT air filter, both Toyota Dealerships told me they were the same part when they searched it on their computer.

The price difference was between Toyota and Subaru

Tcoat 02-25-2019 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 8inchAzN (Post 3189333)
When I asked regarding 2017MT vs a 2017 AT air filter, both Toyota Dealerships told me they were the same part when they searched it on their computer.

The price difference was between Toyota and Subaru

They are wrong. The picture I attached is the change to the 2017 MT ONLY. The AT filter remains the same as it was before and will not fit the 17+ MT. They are very different in size and shape.

86TOYO2k17 02-25-2019 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 8inchAzN (Post 3189333)
When I asked regarding 2017MT vs a 2017 AT air filter, both Toyota Dealerships told me they were the same part when they searched it on their computer.

The price difference was between Toyota and Subaru

Did you just say air filter or specify intake filter? Your first post makes it sound like you are referring to the cabin air filter. Which is the same for all vehicles.

The intake filter should be different.

8inchAzN 02-25-2019 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17 (Post 3189338)
Did you just say air filter or specify intake filter? Your first post makes it sound like you are referring to the cabin air filter. Which is the same for all vehicles.

The intake filter should be different.

Sorry, I mean the engine filter. I specified Engine filter when I called them.

Tcoat 02-25-2019 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 8inchAzN (Post 3189340)
Sorry, I mean the engine filter. I specified Engine filter when I called them.

The Toyota part number for the MT intake filter is SU00306405


The AT part number is SU00300319




Subaru MT part number is 16546AA170
AT is 16546JB000

igorotak 02-25-2019 11:36 AM

Don't intend to derail the thread but seeing that my17 and newer air intakes are better than previous years, is it plug n play if to swap a my17 or newer in my16? Or does it need a tune?


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