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jarviz 01-29-2014 09:00 AM

4 cylinder cars
 
What other cars with a 4-cylinder engine have a higher torque/hp output? Just curious since many people think these cars are underpowered, but forget how lightweight they really are. And I don't think the power performance is all too bad considering it's a non-turbo/super.

993Fan 01-29-2014 09:05 AM

Big rigs have 4-cylinder engines and they have plenty of torque and horsepower!

Pickleahoy 01-29-2014 09:49 AM

Any factory boosted 4 cylinder. Naturally aspirated though 200 hp out of a 2.0 is about as good as you get since Honda got lazy and went up in displacement

Luis_GT 01-29-2014 09:50 AM

F20C had 240hp

Dingle049 01-29-2014 09:54 AM

Chevy cruze diesel, but its also front wheel drive, so not as much fun. Can't beat it's 46 mpg's on the highway though

Mikem53 01-29-2014 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarviz (Post 1488329)
What other cars with a 4-cylinder engine have a higher torque/hp output? Just curious since many people think these cars are underpowered, but forget how lightweight they really are. And I don't think the power performance is all too bad considering it's a non-turbo/super.

the twins have a weight:HP ratio of about 13.5:1 lbs to HP
my last car had a weight ratio of 7.3:1
Im enjoying the stock power and find it adequate, you just need
to work it hard..

DylanFRS 01-29-2014 10:20 AM

Honda's B16B that came out in 1996 had 185hp. That's 185hp from a 1.6 liter almost two decades ago. No DI.

BlueDubbinTDI 01-29-2014 10:30 AM

My TDI has 238tq. If I deleted the DPF and tuned it i could have 300tq everything else stock.

AsianStyle 01-29-2014 10:36 AM

I love the twins, but I really think toyota messed up sourcing the subaru flat 4. I personally would have preferred toyota developing a higher revving inline 4 that made closer to 240-250hp.

I don't buy into this whole needs lowest cog bs. I agree high cog is bad, but switching to an inline 4 would not make the car suddenly handle like a SUV. This whole cog thing just screams marketing BS and having a bullet point in their ADs.

humfrz 01-29-2014 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikem53 (Post 1488415)
the twins have a weight:HP ratio of about 13.5:1 lbs to HP
my last car had a weight ratio of 7.3:1
Im enjoying the stock power and find it adequate, you just need
to work it hard..

What kind of car was that, Mikem53 .... ??

:cheers:

DarkSunrise 01-29-2014 10:57 AM

200 hp out of a NA 2.0L is pretty good. In fact, I think Subaru/Toyota's the only manufacturer that's been able to do that without variable lift cams.

BlaineWasHere 01-29-2014 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianStyle (Post 1488507)
I love the twins, but I really think toyota messed up sourcing the subaru flat 4. I personally would have preferred toyota developing a higher revving inline 4 that made closer to 240-250hp.

I don't buy into this whole needs lowest cog bs. I agree high cog is bad, but switching to an inline 4 would not make the car suddenly handle like a SUV. This whole cog thing just screams marketing BS and having a bullet point in their ADs.

Toyota didn't just source the motor, they sourced the whole car. If Toyota had developed such a motor for the car, as you say, it would have been a $30K car.

Mikem53 01-29-2014 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 1488564)
What kind of car was that, Mikem53 .... ??

:cheers:

08 vette..

Turbowned 01-29-2014 11:10 AM

200hp out of the FA20 is pretty good, especially considering it doesn't slouch too bad in the torque department, either. Honda's F20c bests it by 40hp but torque is roughly the same. I'm fairly certain the extra power comes in the last 2,000rpm; if Subaru were to build a 9,000rpm-revving boxer it might do the same, but the cost would put the FR-S/BRZ over $30k, where the S2000 was. The S2000 was more like $40k in today's dollars, something the Honda fanboys are quick to forget. I'm sure if you dumped $10k in the FA20 it would produce more power ;)

The Mazda MX-5 has a 2.0L that only produces 167hp. The older Genesis coupe only made 210hp out of a turbo 2.0L, granted that number has increased to 274hp since the twins were introduced.


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