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Trap63 03-29-2014 04:58 PM

Real STI BREMBO package upgrade - DIY
 
So, guys...first of all, you need calipers from:

FRONT>>>>Impreza STI 2003+
REAR>>>>>Impreza STI 2008+


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Warn! all STI calipers are black from 2008+

Therefore you need to paint them as Black like tS Model.

I suggest to sandblast and revise all calipers before to paint them.
Some bodyworks can "operate" usually up to 60°C (140F), calipers must be managed for 120°C (248F), 45 minutes. You need professionals for an "industrial" coating.

These calipers are compliant and plug 'n play.

!!! YOU NEED ONLY TO SWITCH BLEEDERS ON FRONT CALIPER FROM DOWN TO UP !!!!

Bolt of stock calipers, both front and rear, are fitting for 14mms wrench, STI are for 17mms.

Here are the stock rotor measures of BRZ Grade High, Europe (maybe Sport or Premium USA/CAN)

FRONT

Diameter 294
Height 57
Thickness 24
Min Thickness 22
Centre Hole Dia 58
Bolt Holes 5

REAR

Diameter 290
Height 64
Thickness 18
Min Thickness 16
C/Hole 58
Bolt holes 5

About new rotors fitting these calipers, you need on front (i.g. my Mod)

Diameter 326
Height 53
Thickness 30
Min Thickness 28
C/Hole 58
Bolt holes 5/10 (dual for DBA)

on Rear

Diameter 316
Height 63.5
Thickness 20
Min Thickness 18
C/Hole 58
Bolt holes 5/10 (dual for DBA42656)



If you choose DBA the right part code are:

front DBA4654 (XS)
rear DBA42656 (XS
)
(XS are gold - mine - coated and with temperature strip checker )

WARN!!! you need rotor for rear only for Impreza WRX STI GRF (316x63.5 not 67.5) (as you can see here).

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Impreza WRX STI with Brembo Caliper (rear) runs on DBA4655 that are much higher (67.5 mms)

I found a special sale from a friend that have bought wrong model of DBA....the DBA4655.

You can solve this issue very easily....Yo need to have a new hub level and I solved this issue with an internal spacer (4 mms H - 125mms DIA - 5x100 PCD). If you need, I get the .DWG file to realize this spacer.


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I gain 4 mm (gap between..) as ET...so I start before mod with ET35 and now I get ET31 (on 17" rims)

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This way is fully plug 'n play (99,99% - you need only to remove backplate for FRONT rotors and lowering the external ring for the rear backplate) Bosch and Makita can help.....

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About brake lines:
HEL Brake Line Kit - Subaru BRZ (With STI Brembos)

About pads:
Front - Pagid RS-15 (Grey) - code U2487
Rear - Ferodo Racing DS3000 - code FCP1562R

http://www.ferodoracing.it/scheda/pastiglia/cod/FCP1562


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malubawla 03-29-2014 06:04 PM

sticky please!

thanks for the great writeup

Trap63 03-29-2014 06:10 PM

When removing front backplates you can install front carbon vent brake (Impreza WRX STI) and ducting tube (60mms DIA).

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Scalzo 03-29-2014 07:31 PM

You have a total cost for this DIY? :D

mashal 03-29-2014 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scalzo (Post 1635394)
You have a total cost for this DIY? :D

this

Figo 03-29-2014 11:38 PM

I run DBA 4000 slotted on FRONT with 08 calipers but did not remove the backshield..
They wont contact.....

Model Citizen 03-30-2014 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scalzo (Post 1635394)
You have a total cost for this DIY? :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by mashal (Post 1635728)
this

op is in italy, his costs will be different that ours.

that said,

cost will be heavily dependent on the deal you find on calipers and rotors. Prices on brembo calipers can vary pretty widely from used private sale, ebay part out vendor, or new. Lot of times used ones will include usable pads and rotors. new calipers don't include bolts. Couple years back I put new f/r brembos, new dba 4000 rotors, new pads, new bolts, new lines and rear parking brake adaptor on my forester, total cost ended up lets say maybe a bit under 2k range, and that was because i got the calipers cheap (for new) and rotors as a clearance.

price could literally vary from 1k-2.5+ depending on deal found and specific path taken. there are many rotors available in sti fitment and they vary huge in price.

InvalidJohnny5 03-30-2014 01:50 AM

Uggghhhh those brakes look nice with a raw finish.

Trap63 03-30-2014 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Model Citizen (Post 1635858)
op is in italy, his costs will be different that ours.

that said,

cost will be heavily dependent on the deal you find on calipers and rotors. Prices on brembo calipers can vary pretty widely from used private sale, ebay part out vendor, or new. Lot of times used ones will include usable pads and rotors. new calipers don't include bolts. Couple years back I put new f/r brembos, new dba 4000 rotors, new pads, new bolts, new lines and rear parking brake adaptor on my forester, total cost ended up lets say maybe a bit under 2k range, and that was because i got the calipers cheap (for new) and rotors as a clearance.

price could literally vary from 1k-2.5+ depending on deal found and specific path taken. there are many rotors available in sti fitment and they vary huge in price.

About the cost , here in Italy.

Here is very very difficult to find spare parts from WRX STI and to find STI rear calipers is a very big win.

-Front calipers bought from a friend of mine (Subaru Impreza WRX STI 2005 , Brembo GOLD) Eur 450.00 with brake lines Impreza STI Brembo Goodridge (not used, for spare. A bonus for future!)
-Rear calipers bought with referrals of another friend (Subaru Impreza WRX STI 2008 . Brembo black) Eur 290.00

All calipers with brackets and bolts.

-Hell brake lines from UK £55.00
-Rotors….the BIG Deal…bought on Ebay in Italy near Slovenjia from a man with a wrong buy as the WRX STI he bought was already 5x114.3!! Eur 440.00 (4 rotors)
-Sandblasting and full warranty revision and rebuild after coating (1 year) Eur 400.00
-Coating…from some friends of mine(Industrial marine and automotive coating,, they work for Ferrari) Eur 20,00 each
-Spacer…a gift, no pay.

The total amount is therefore: EUR 1,726.00 ( USD 2,373.00) pads excluded.


I might have had the chance to sandblast only a pair of calipers thus 2 were black already and save Eur 200.00 (Eur 1,526.00/USD 2,098.00) but notwithstanding the good condition of calipers I decided to have them like refurbished.

You can add Eur 30.00 for Oil (RBF660F).

-For pads , the front Pagids from Germany cost Eur 279.00 and rear of Ferodo from UK £185.00. So, the total for pads is Eur 502.00 (USD 690.00)

Install, free of charge as this is a my DIY

So, my full STI Brembo (6 pots) costs Eur 2.258,50/USD 3,106.00

I don't know if is a great saving in comparison with other brake system. About Brembo quality is no matter, no doubt. Mine are new now in all components. I saw some kit from USA (StopTech and AP Racing first of all) but I should have had to pay much more including custom charges and a VAT (+30/33%)

About braking, I find them very impressive for windily roads and some track days. A good ratio between cost/earning.

Trap63 03-30-2014 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Figo (Post 1635788)
I run DBA 4000 slotted on FRONT with 08 calipers but did not remove the backshield..
They wont contact.....

Maybe probably it depends from the model (grade) you own. Here we have rotors much wider than US base model and stock caliper brackets may have some differences.

Figo 03-30-2014 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trap63 (Post 1636292)
Maybe probably it depends from the model (grade) you own. Here we have rotors much wider than US base model and stock caliper brackets may have some differences.

seems like US model is the cheapest one...:mad0259:

Trap63 03-30-2014 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Figo (Post 1636804)
seems like US model is the cheapest one...:mad0259:

...I paid plated my BRZ, late in June Eur 28.800,00 Eur (USD 39,625.00) 6MT, rebate of 6% - Italian price is Eur 30.450,00 (USD 41,895.00) and our Grade is HIGH with full optionals, similar to your US Limited but we have included Fog Light Kit, DRL, Deck Lid Spoiler, excluded Auto-Dimming Mirror with Compass and Homelink.
No leather/alcantara seats available in Italy and no AT, no Car Navi and only 6MT, only 17" rims.

US price is very lower...and cheaper...

JDMenrique 03-30-2014 06:03 PM

Nice!

Scalzo 03-30-2014 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trap63 (Post 1636273)
About the cost , here in Italy.

Here is very very difficult to find spare parts from WRX STI and to find STI rear calipers is a very big win.

-Front calipers bought from a friend of mine (Subaru Impreza WRX STI 2005 , Brembo GOLD) Eur 450.00 with brake lines Impreza STI Brembo Goodridge (not used, for spare. A bonus for future!)
-Rear calipers bought with referrals of another friend (Subaru Impreza WRX STI 2008 . Brembo black) Eur 290.00

All calipers with brackets and bolts.

-Hell brake lines from UK £55.00
-Rotors….the BIG Deal…bought on Ebay in Italy near Slovenjia from a man with a wrong buy as the WRX STI he bought was already 5x114.3!! Eur 440.00 (4 rotors)
-Sandblasting and full warranty revision and rebuild after coating (1 year) Eur 400.00
-Coating…from some friends of mine(Industrial marine and automotive coating,, they work for Ferrari) Eur 20,00 each
-Spacer…a gift, no pay.

The total amount is therefore: EUR 1,726.00 ( USD 2,373.00) pads excluded.


I might have had the chance to sandblast only a pair of calipers thus 2 were black already and save Eur 200.00 (Eur 1,526.00/USD 2,098.00) but notwithstanding the good condition of calipers I decided to have them like refurbished.

You can add Eur 30.00 for Oil (RBF660F).

-For pads , the front Pagids from Germany cost Eur 279.00 and rear of Ferodo from UK £185.00. So, the total for pads is Eur 502.00 (USD 690.00)

Install, free of charge as this is a my DIY

So, my full STI Brembo (6 pots) costs Eur 2.258,50/USD 3,106.00

I don't know if is a great saving in comparison with other brake system. About Brembo quality is no matter, no doubt. Mine are new now in all components. I saw some kit from USA (StopTech and AP Racing first of all) but I should have had to pay much more including custom charges and a VAT (+30/33%)

About braking, I find them very impressive for windily roads and some track days. A good ratio between cost/earning.

Damn but for 3.1K why wouldn't someone just get some wilwoods or new brembos?
Just a question, not hating lol :thumbup:


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