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nalc 12-14-2013 12:09 PM

Full BRZ interior disassembly for sound deadening - lots of pics, every panel off
 
Imgur link to album with a lot of pictures

http://imgur.com/a/GvSzW#0

I did a complete sound deadening installation on my BRZ. Used CLD tiles, mass loaded vinyl, closed cell foam, and extruded butyl rope from Sound Deadener Showdown. I took a ton of pictures along the way. Hopefully this serves as a good resource for anyone else installing sound deadening, or for anyone who wants to take their interior apart.

I ended up using approximately 80 sq ft of MLV (minus scraps, so probably 70 lbs into the car), 45 CLD tiles, 25 sq ft of 3M Thinsulate Acoustic, and 4 sheets of closed cell foam.

For tools, you need a socket set (10mm for the rear seats, something bigger that I can't remember for the seatbelts, an E10 torx socket for the seats (Harbor Freight has a nice cheap set)), a Philips screwdriver, and a set of panel removal tools.

It's not quite a step-by-step guide, but I took a ton of pictures along the way, and I'll try to write out descriptions as I get a chance.

nalc 12-14-2013 12:09 PM

Doors

Pics are for passenger side, driver side is pretty much the same but there is an extra wire harness for the side mirror adjustment knob

Door card
http://i.imgur.com/aVj3Dht.jpg

Prying from the bottom, pop out the cover on the handle. Two screws behind it
http://i.imgur.com/b2qUnwY.jpg

Third screw behind the handle
http://i.imgur.com/n9EmHzL.jpg

Now you can pry it off. I like to start from the bottom. The seal around the glass kinda sits in a channel, so it's easiest to pry the bottom away, then lift the card out to remove, and get the top in then push the bottom in to install the door card.

Door latches. Two steel cables - one for handle, one for lock. You can either leave the handles screwed onto the door card and pop out the cables (they end in a ball which is seated in a cradle on the handle), or unscrew two screws to remove the handle from the door card and keep it with the car. Your choice.
http://i.imgur.com/mAJIYI5.jpg

Inside the door card. There's a wiring harness that goes into the window switches, and another that goes into the courtesy lights on the Limited only, and the mirror adjustment on the driver's side. Keep in mind that once you have the switches out, the window won't be able to move. It needs to be up in order for you to apply CLD tiles to the outer door skin. The up-down on closing and opening the door won't work either, so either do it indoors or have it back together before there is any rain.
http://i.imgur.com/WCFatMr.jpg

Near the courtest light. Two black cables are the ones I mentioned before for the door lock and handle.
http://i.imgur.com/NplXCNt.jpg

Door with the card removed. You'll need to remove the plastic to get to the inside. It's attached with a rubbery compound. The best way to get that off without any residue is to have it be somewhat cold out, and to pull it off as quickly as you can. If you pull it slowly, it stretches and tears, leaving residue on the door skin, but if you rip it off with a fast motion, it stays together and all comes off with the plastic sheet.
http://i.imgur.com/3BfpOZd.jpg

Inside of door card
http://i.imgur.com/SSasvl4.jpg

CLD tiles on the outer door skin
http://i.imgur.com/hiXy8ra.jpg

Speaker removed, more CLD
http://i.imgur.com/0VIHFHO.jpg

Extruded butyl rope between the crash beam and the outer door skin
http://i.imgur.com/dbMyhbc.jpg

Cutting MLV for the door
http://i.imgur.com/ZGioPKX.jpg

Hanging the MLV
http://i.imgur.com/JWTVRns.jpg

Cutting holes for the mounting clips. Don't forget the holes for the three screws, and for the speakers!
http://i.imgur.com/7Yz7gyP.jpg

MLV turns white when stretched, so you can push down around the speaker ring to make marks to cut later.
http://i.imgur.com/3JSHbCV.jpg

Cut the speaker hole. When cutting MLV, I find that it is easiest to score it with a snap-off razor blade, then rip it. It will tear very easily and clean along the line you scored.
http://i.imgur.com/vNmsoj5.jpg

MLV back on the door
http://i.imgur.com/whty1dy.jpg

3M Thinsulate inside the door card (on top of a couple small CLD tiles)
http://i.imgur.com/cNo1FHE.jpg

Traced the MLV onto the CCF
http://i.imgur.com/XkOObYO.jpg

Lined up
http://i.imgur.com/jJV4KA7.jpg

Bonded together with contact cement
http://i.imgur.com/daZGckp.jpg

On the door (notice slits for cables)
http://i.imgur.com/K1yuSey.jpg

Pop the door card back on, you're done!

nalc 12-14-2013 12:10 PM

Cabin floor is a tough one. You need everything out - the rear seats, the front seats, and the center console.

Grab the shifter trim ring and pull it up from the front, then out, and disconnect the TCS/VSC switches. There are two screws under it for the center console.
http://i.imgur.com/HKSQkr4.jpg

Remove the cupholders and rubber mat below them, undo the two screws here
http://i.imgur.com/9SUDfll.jpg

Undo the four screws holding the shift boot to the trim ring (you won't be able to get the console off otherwise)
http://i.imgur.com/sIkarRJ.jpg

Pop out the e-brake boot
http://i.imgur.com/1yS6uzk.jpg

Pop out the long trim pieces below the center console kneepads, then find the back of the USB/aux ports, and pop them forward, then disconnect them
http://i.imgur.com/p8fKf2Q.jpg

Reach your finger in the hold and pull the cubbyhole piece out
http://i.imgur.com/5LbFOwa.jpg

Two screws behind it
http://i.imgur.com/ouP2KYG.jpg

Disconnect the heated seat switches, lift the console out
http://i.imgur.com/dJlpnK4.jpg

Pop off the radio trim, undo the two philips screws up there.
http://i.imgur.com/O9TT06d.jpg

Pull kneepads towards you and they will pop out
http://i.imgur.com/cVeyOUP.jpg

Undo seat bolts. E10 torx. Don't use a little socket like that. I stripped one and had a PITA getting it out. Part number is SU003-02815 if you mess up one. Use a breaker bar to get them out.
http://i.imgur.com/ebvSBbB.jpg

Tilt seats forward and disconnect the stuff at the front of it. There's a little flap that snaps onto a bar below the seat.
http://i.imgur.com/85cbR5T.jpg

Christmas tree clip up here, pry it out
http://i.imgur.com/wMR9tQm.jpg

Push pin here, and a smaller christmas tree clip, remove it. Then pull up the weatherstripping from the door, and remove the threshold piece and the little panel in this picture comes out.
http://i.imgur.com/FJSK3Un.jpg

10mm bolt at front of seat, take it out
http://i.imgur.com/nqAiXMC.jpg

Big bolt for seatbelt
http://i.imgur.com/zNHKJAe.jpg

Rear quarter panels. There's one push pin that is hidden by the rear seat cushion, and two more that are actually in the trunk, then you can pop it out. Already some thinsulate acoustic here.
http://i.imgur.com/QlE7lyz.jpg

Here is the door with the threshold and weather strip removed.
http://i.imgur.com/f4kg1wQ.jpg

Two clips on the carpet piece between the rear seats, pry it out
http://i.imgur.com/FGaL36g.jpg

Rear wheel wells
http://i.imgur.com/ejAqnRG.jpg

Already some sort of CLD tile
http://i.imgur.com/pIq3kCV.jpg

Take the carpet out
http://i.imgur.com/viPUgiH.jpg

Already some very thin MLV around the transmission doghouse, and some padding at the front of the footwells.
http://i.imgur.com/aOwyw4X.jpg

I put a 7/8" black plastic cap from the hardware store over the sound tube.
http://i.imgur.com/qEcsCE2.jpg

Going to bond some MLV to the doghouse MLV. After further evaluation, I decided this wasn't the best way, so for the drivers side I used velcro instead, so I could have it be one piece with the floor MLV.
http://i.imgur.com/FdOqEuc.jpg

HH-66 on both surfaces. You can see some CLD on the driveshaft tunnel too.
http://i.imgur.com/QYNkHMU.jpg

Attached
http://i.imgur.com/aMTsigv.jpg

CLD inside the rear quarter
http://i.imgur.com/yigyNmS.jpg

If it ain't broke don't fix it. I didn't remove any factory sound deadening material, just added.
http://i.imgur.com/eOmEQy8.jpg

Underside of the carpet. It had two soft foam pads under the floor, and a styrofoam block at the forward edge. Don recommends doubling up CCF here, I didn't use any CCF, I just put the MLV between the foam pads and the carpet.
http://i.imgur.com/5wER9e0.jpg

Styrofoam block
http://i.imgur.com/ppH5swW.jpg

Cut MLV for it
http://i.imgur.com/IlbVmXf.jpg

MLV installed
http://i.imgur.com/HwwY6Fl.jpg

CCF around the rear end
http://i.imgur.com/gx9zJQX.jpg

Carpet back in
http://i.imgur.com/TSJqaTM.jpg

nalc 12-14-2013 12:10 PM

Rear quarters are pretty similar to the doors. Both sides, though, I installed it and had it on the car before realizing I didn't cut a hole for the speaker. You'd think I would have learned after one side, but no. The only tricky part is the lower area - there is the ledge that can serve as an armrest for the rear seats, so you've got to use multiple pieces of MLV to fit around it.

You can see the ledge and styrofoam block to the left
http://i.imgur.com/smRYSPo.jpg

MLV and CCF on
http://i.imgur.com/HL8Sijp.jpg

Center armrest
http://i.imgur.com/BiQdrWP.jpg

Fitting CCF below the rear seats and over the center armrest
http://i.imgur.com/CieC22u.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oifizRW.jpg

The armrest has styrofoam in it to keep the shape
http://i.imgur.com/kuAsM9d.jpg

Fitting MLV
http://i.imgur.com/J3YEaWp.jpg

Make sure it still fits
http://i.imgur.com/84zkCXI.jpg

Seat back on to check fitment
http://i.imgur.com/64WwSgl.jpg

MLV on both sides
http://i.imgur.com/ognB8fj.jpg

You can see the push pin in the lower left. There's that one, and two more in the trunk
http://i.imgur.com/QU5SQtW.jpg

Cutting a hole for the wiring. It's challenging to apply MLV to a concave surface. I cut a square, then made a slit from the center outwards, then let the two sides of the slit overlap to make a sort of cone, then trimmed the overlap.
http://i.imgur.com/aCUfv12.jpg

Still fits together!
http://i.imgur.com/SF4dyY5.jpg

14mm socket on the seatbelt (this is out of order)
http://i.imgur.com/0teihGb.jpg

10mm bolt on the front of the rear seats
http://i.imgur.com/02eE43b.jpg

nalc 12-14-2013 12:10 PM

For the headliner, most sources suggested that MLV that high was pretty useless, because no road noise is coming in there. Biggest gains are CLD to dampen resonance (and prevent "rain drops on tin roof" syndrome during bad weather), and thinsulate for thermal insulation.

Two screws on the visors, then pop them out and disconnect the wire harness (not sure if FR-S or BRZ Premium has these)
http://i.imgur.com/fTID7aa.jpg

These clips are a PITA. Need to push them in from both sides, while pulling. Three hand job.
http://i.imgur.com/XvaV3NP.jpg

Pry out C pillar trim
http://i.imgur.com/VXmUgvn.jpg

Pry out three clips across the back
http://i.imgur.com/S4QtLjO.jpg

Pry out A pillar trim
http://i.imgur.com/NVMWGHF.jpg

[Not shown - Pry out B pillar trim]

Headliner dropped down. Wires are taped to it, so you'll need to pull the tape off then put new tape on.
http://i.imgur.com/ITotV2i.jpg

Undoing the wiring
http://i.imgur.com/uZ1xjzN.jpg

Look at all that sheet metal! No wonder rain is so loud
http://i.imgur.com/8SPe5KV.jpg

A frame, and the antenna. I used a thin strip of thinsulate between the rear glass and this frame, and a big sheet of thinsulate between the windshield and this frame. It's too close to the headliner to put thinsulate between.
http://i.imgur.com/488j4Qz.jpg

Beam going across the top
http://i.imgur.com/AN1EZls.jpg

Rear strip of thinsulate
http://i.imgur.com/NGzLPsv.jpg

CLD tiles on the roof. Thinsulate is sitting there, sandwiched between the roof and the headliner.
http://i.imgur.com/bAYGLtP.jpg

For the trunk, you've really got three options.

1 - Isolate the trunk from the cabin. Sound deaden the parcel shelf / rear deck, as well as the rear seatbacks.

2 - Isolate the spare tire well from the trunk. Sound deaden the trunk lid, trunk sides, and use a big sheet of MLV under the trunk mat, above the spare tire well.

3 - Isolate the spare tire well and trunk from the road. MLV goes under the spare tire. This is a pain in the ass to do, because there's a lot of curves down there, and equipment such as the amp installed.

I was going to go with 1 or 2 depending on how much MLV I had available, and I had enough for 2. A big reason was that #2 won't preclude me from getting the OEM Audio Plus system with the trunk sub in the future, as my trunk isn't isolated from my cabin. For #1, adding a trunk sub would be pretty silly, as there would be sound deadening between you and it. #2 also is easier and requires less material than #3, but the downside is that you'll need to lift out a sheet of MLV to access the spare tire. For me, it's not a big deal, as I didn't really have a hard time lifting that much MLV.

So on to the trunk pics

Three push pins for the trunk threshold
http://i.imgur.com/qVrZtQT.jpg

A couple more for the trunk side liners. IIRC, it's the two that are shared with the rear quarter trim pieces I did earlier, and three additional ones. You'll need to disconnect the button for the trunk release disable on the left side.
http://i.imgur.com/Bz9eIEl.jpg

Get some CLD into the inside of the rear quarter panels. I went shoulder deep into them from the cabin side, so it wasn't too hard going in from the trunk side (there's no structure in there, you could theoretically stick your arm all the way from just below the little window for the rear seats all the way through to the tail lights if it was long enough)
http://i.imgur.com/c290aYp.jpg

Pry the clips holding the styrofoam pieces out
http://i.imgur.com/xKfxh4T.jpg

Empty spare tire well (the last piece is part of the rear seat backs and can't be fully removed without unbolting the seats. You can see the speaker amp, and the wire for my back-up camera.
http://i.imgur.com/Eq205HO.jpg

Wire harness for the trunk release disable. Once that is out, you lose the ability to open the trunk any way other than the physical key. That black box is a flappy vent thing to allow excess air to escape the cabin.
http://i.imgur.com/p7t6EPD.jpg

Right side. A bit more structure here due to the fuel filler neck.
http://i.imgur.com/XWI9ZeY.jpg

CLD! I am a proponent of the theory that ridges in the sheet metal add stiffness, so I focused on putting CLD on the flat areas.
http://i.imgur.com/YbiePM2.jpg

Figured I might as well put some CCF to isolate the cap that holds the spare tire in place while I had it out, just in case it's a potential rattle.
http://i.imgur.com/1jhq0SO.jpg

CLD on the wheel wells
http://i.imgur.com/6AOCIBm.jpg

Sheet of MLV for the trunk
http://i.imgur.com/SqXKrPz.jpg

Bonding to some CCF
http://i.imgur.com/sJcTYB2.jpg

Trimmed to fit
http://i.imgur.com/ign7cMg.jpg

Test fit
http://i.imgur.com/4dG1NrO.jpg

For the trunk lid, I didn't think MLV was neccessary, so I did CLD and Thinsulate. Cut a piece to fit.
http://i.imgur.com/ghb81yD.jpg

Liner back on. Where'd the Thinsulate go? BTW, none of the material in this entire DIY is visible without taking a panel off.
http://i.imgur.com/UzxpHQA.jpg

Except for this little bit, at a very specific angle. Shame on you, Subaru, for not getting the fitment of the trunk lid liner perfect.
http://i.imgur.com/cJfgmEo.jpg

nalc 12-14-2013 12:11 PM

The driver's side is pretty much the same as the passenger, except for the gas cap release, hood release, and the front footwell.

Pry off the little cap to get to the screw to remove the plastic cover
http://i.imgur.com/BsbMwVl.jpg

Remove the screw (duh)
http://i.imgur.com/2CX3UdM.jpg

Pull the threshold out, undo the push pin to get the hood release surround out
http://i.imgur.com/pHWWrI6.jpg

Pry off the long narrow trim under the center console kneepad. Four round clips in this pic will need to be removed - can you find them all?
http://i.imgur.com/Z5WRxGX.jpg

It's clever how they did the dead pedal. Two of the black circles are actually clips. The dead pedal is attached to the carpet. These clips go through holes and hold the dead pedal to a metal bracket behind it that supports it.
http://i.imgur.com/kDbgJYU.jpg

Gas pedal backing piece out. That big circle is actually a clip that serves as a throttle stop. There is no "pedal to the metal" in the twins - you need to go "pedal to the big round black plastic clip"
http://i.imgur.com/BiFg0td.jpg

Pulling carpet out
http://i.imgur.com/NlpexWd.jpg

Last clip
http://i.imgur.com/8oEwUzV.jpg

Those three screw threads in the bottom left are what the dead pedal support bracket attaches to (with nuts)
http://i.imgur.com/Oc5iGcq.jpg

Carpet out
http://i.imgur.com/ZjQFUYn.jpg

This pink insulation goes all the way up from the footwell to the firewall
http://i.imgur.com/lRde8pS.jpg

I didn't take it out to put CLD behind it because I couldn't really get these clips off for wires going over it
http://i.imgur.com/z2ObE9p.jpg

But you can pull it up from the bottom and stick some CLD under it
http://i.imgur.com/xhxTvdH.jpg

Fitting MLV
http://i.imgur.com/oqWmNmg.jpg

Holes for the seat bolts
http://i.imgur.com/p8J8rsC.jpg

Foam with the super-thin MLV patch peeled off the carpet and put back in
http://i.imgur.com/xw8J1Zr.jpg

Real MLV over it
http://i.imgur.com/AuaGxv9.jpg

Cutting to fit
http://i.imgur.com/ngSMGRp.jpg

Using velcro to attach the left hand side and right hand side MLV above the transmission tunnel.
http://i.imgur.com/rZyVBmp.jpg

White64Goat 12-14-2013 12:55 PM

Damn, you went all out didn't you? What are you using on the roof?

Muskokan 12-14-2013 01:02 PM

Rattle proof now??

nalc 12-14-2013 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by White64Goat (Post 1389927)
Damn, you went all out didn't you? What are you using on the roof?

Bunch of CLD tiles and 3M thinsulate acoustic. Supposedly having MLV up that high doesn't do much.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muskokan (Post 1389939)
Rattle proof now??

Yeah, except for the stupid auto dim mirror. Going to try the replacement mounting bracket, longer screws, and loctite approach.

White64Goat 12-14-2013 02:37 PM

Yeah, I read that on the site link. How are you holding the 3M Thinsulate material up to the roof?

I hit a brief downpour one day and was amazed at how loud the roof was and that there was no sound material from the factory.

mike_ekim1024 12-14-2013 03:27 PM

Wow, that must have taken a while! Nice work, and thanks for putting up the photos.

EmSeaSqrd 12-14-2013 03:50 PM

Awesome job nalc! Was looking into doing this myself because sometimes I find myself having to yell when on the phone because the noise level in the cabin can get loud at times. How much did you pay for this DIY?

protpibe 12-17-2013 11:00 AM

Awesome writeup, thanks.

I'm interested to hear your driving impressions when it's all done. I'm assuming it will be Lexus LS quiet

White64Goat 12-17-2013 11:17 AM

Waiting for the headliner series...........:thanks:


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