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skinsfn36 11-01-2011 10:55 AM

Theres no way it will be badged an STi and share the same drivetrain as the FR-S. I think this is the model the auto mags got to drive that said has more power.

Infernal 11-01-2011 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 40flash (Post 69447)
I susspect the production model will have door handles of some sort.

ROFL


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the front grille reminds me of the GT-R

http://volvoc.com/wp-content/uploads...Blue-Color.jpg

zigzagz94 11-01-2011 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 69445)
Bumpers, not anything with sheet metal like fenders, doors, trunk, etc. For this to happen there would be sheet metal changes.

I get what you are saying...

it's just that I was never really sold on the whole "exactly the same except badges" claim. I'm hoping on some slight sheetmetal differences like this render.

Dave-ROR 11-01-2011 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by zigzagz94 (Post 69455)
I get what you are saying...

it's just that I was never really sold on the whole "exactly the same except badges" claim. I'm hoping on some slight sheetmetal differences like this render.

Well that would increase cost due to the additional stampings/dies that need to be made. I'm guessing they are already trying to keep this as cheap as possible like everyone here wants so I wouldn't bet on it yet..

Now maybe in a few years we'll see something like that, but I wouldn't bet on it for next year.

I'd be happy to be wrong though!

zeggie 11-01-2011 11:02 AM

I like the BRZ rear lights,but i am leaning towars the FRS.

Blitz 11-01-2011 11:04 AM

Hey guys, this a bit off topic in regards to suspension and my apologies if there is a definitive answer. Some articles mention the FT-86 as Double wishbone rear, any word if the BR-Z will be different (i.e Multi-link). Thanks

Dave-ROR 11-01-2011 11:06 AM

It's going to be the same as the FR-S, so the rear will be double wishbone according to the specs that were leaked.

JohnnyR 11-01-2011 11:10 AM

Oh my, that looks much better than expected. If this thing does have a real STI variant with a turbo, this will be the one people want to get.

fred_boosted 11-01-2011 11:11 AM

Nice! Can't wait!

Blitz 11-01-2011 11:12 AM

Thanks Dave

Do Boy 11-01-2011 11:12 AM

Guess this is the one I'm getting lol. Hope they lose that wing thou.

Nostalgia1987 11-01-2011 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DC87 (Post 69381)
First official images of Subaru BRZ Concept STI

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...8&d=1320156579

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http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...5&d=1320156533

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...6&d=1320156533

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/attac...7&d=1320156533

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"You can imagine how Subaru must have been feeling as partner Toyota hogged the headlines with its FT-86. But at long last, someone at Subaru has seen sense and decided to issue an official picture of the new BRZ coupe.

This is the Subaru BRZ Concept STi – a rather obviously production-ready glimpse of the new rear-wheel drive coupe, co-developed between Subaru parent Fuji Heavy Industries and Toyota.

Subaru BRZ Concept STi: the lowdown

This coupe will be shown at the 2011 Los Angeles auto show on 16 November 2011 and just one photo has been issued so far.

There's precious little in the way of technical information, either. They're just trotting out the usual line about it being powered by Subaru's horizontally opposed boxer engine, which we've known since day one.

Extra information we've already gleaned from our recent drive in the Toyota FT-86 include the fact that the boxer engine is likely to be a 2.0-litre four-cylinder boxer, delivering around 200bhp/170lb ft in regular guise. The direct-injection Toyota emits around 160g/km for trim tax bills.

But the STi monicker of this concept car is a clear indication that go-faster versions are planned. Witness the enormous rear wing.

Any other details on the Subaru BRZ?

That boxer engine will allow a very low centre of gravity, promises Subaru, so we are told to expect edgy handling. CAR's resident oversteer-fan, deputy editor Ben Barry, reported that the rear-wheel drive FT-86 test hack he drove was very sideways – but in quite a different way from rally-proven four-wheel drive Subarus of yore.

The Subaru BRZ is likely to be a niche car in the UK. Torrid exchange rates will make this one pricey sports coupe, and the UK importer expects sales of only around 500 a year.

We reckon on this first evidence, they might be able to nudge that volume up a notch or too. If they can get the price right."

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Se...icial-picture/

Does say it is a concept. If this was the complete production model, fkn oath ill opt for this variant. This car would have to sell into the 50-60k range if Subaru Aus got their act together and said yes to put the BRZ up their line up.

Will be the first Subaru production sport car here in a while that wont cost an arm an a kidney to insurance due to the naturally aspirated engine option.

Dragonitti 11-01-2011 11:25 AM

They did manage to get the "Subaru" styling cues in there. Front end is boring, so maybe they will change that. Like the Scion/Toyota version better though. Their concepts looked better and their production looks better. I'll just add my own turbo setup.

Impey Barbicane 11-01-2011 11:27 AM

For me, it's going to come down to which has the nicer interior and features thereof. It could come down to something as simple as which one has better cupholders.

Mark my words, the standard versions of the Toyota and Subaru versions will be mechanically identical.


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