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GrimmSpeed 04-09-2013 05:32 PM

BRZ/FR-S Strut Tower Brace - Any Interest?
 
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It's official, ladies and gentleman. Strut bars are back from powdercoat and are looking really sharp! Most of you have been following it's development since day one, but for those that haven't, what you see here is the very best and most cost effective strut tower brace available. In both simulated and on-road testing, we're able to show that the factory triangulation bar actually do their jobs quite well! The only missing piece is a rigid bar tying both strut towers together, completing the triangle, and let me tell you, what a difference it makes. From the moment you pull out of the driveway, you'll feel a stiffer front end. Less creaks, noticeably smoother and more stable over cracks/potholes/etc and much snappier steering response. I wouldn't say it if it weren't true, but you don't have to take my word for it!

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Quick Specs:
  • Laser cut, CNC bent brackets ensure a perfect fit
  • Mild steel construction provides maximum stiffness
  • Rigid design prevents unnecessary slop and tolerance stacking
  • Durable duPont powercoat
  • Legal in autocross classes that allow a strut tower bar but no other modification
  • Installation in minutes with only a single tool

(MSRP: $158.99)

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Original Post:

We're back at it again folks, and once again we're looking for your input! In our previous ft86club collaboration, the hood struts, the ideas and responses from the community here were very valuable. With your help we were able to release an extremely successful product with ideas and features that YOU want. So please, once again, any and all input is welcome whether you have a question, concern, idea, or just want to hit us with some motivational words!

Most people are aware of what a strut tower brace does, but aren't entirely aware of why they want one. So what does it actually do? Most people would say: "It stiffens up the front of the car." But what does that accomplish, and how does it actually make your car better?

Lets start with some expectations of what it SHOULD be doing: A properly designed strut tower brace should reduce movement between the strut towers, which results in more predictable handling characteristics. What you should notice as a driver (especially if you have sticky tires and complimentary upgrades) is increased response, turn-in, and traction. This is accomplished because you are minimizing a portion of the chassis as an additional deflection in the suspension system, which removes some unwanted changes in camber, castor, etc. An additional side effect of adding a strut tower brace that is often overlooked comes from reducing chassis flex. Reducing movement will reduce fatigue, which is useful for increasing the structural longevity of the car itself.

The first thing that we did before developing any concepts was to determine if these cars actually benefit from a strut tower brace, as we're not interested in providing a part that does nothing. These cars already come stock with triangulation bars to provide additional rigidity, so we wanted to determine how effective these were, and if we wanted to design a brace that included them as well. We will touch on the specifics of our testing in another post, but in the interest of brevity we'll summarize our testing and results here. We made a very simple brace out of metal that fit on the studs on the strut towers that the triangulation bars are bolted to. We then took several data sets with our Faro Arm with and without different combinations of the stock triangulation bars and prototype strut tower brace. We did this to compare how much the strut towers were deflecting when we jacked up one side of the chassis to a calibrated height. This is NOT indicative of the lateral loads the strut towers see in cornering, where the forces are much higher and specifically located. Instead, this test is much more simplified, and results seen here will be more exaggerated when applied to real life cornering.

http://www.grimmspeed.com/images/BRZ/ft86stb_faro2.jpg

I took several data sets and then compiled them looking for trends. In my software I held one strut tower in place, and measured the differences in deflection in the other strut tower. I'll post a picture here showing some quick visual results. The blue stud represents the car sitting on the ground, completely unloaded. The yellow stud is the car loaded (jacked up to a calibrated height) with the triangulation bars and our prototype strut tower brace. The green stud is the car loaded with just triangulation bars. Finally, the red stud is the car loaded without the triangulation bars or strut tower bar.

http://www.grimmspeed.com/images/BRZ/ft86stb_1stud.jpg

What this initially shows is that the stock triangulation bars do a pretty decent job of minimizing deflection. It also shows us that adding a strut tower brace to those triangulation bars does an even better job at that task. Let the designs begin!!!

We've identified how the strut bar should perform as our initial criteria for design. From there, there are still so many decisions that need to be made. We've weighed many options, and are still on the fence with some. Should it be hinged, or welded solid? What mounting method/location should it use? Is adjusting for preload important? What should it look like? How much should it cost? The list goes on and on! Thus far, the direction we're leaning in is a strut tower bar that is welded solid, non-adjustable, fits over your stock triangulation bars, and utilizes those two mounting studs. We're thinking something that is clean and appears to be OEM...

We've whipped up a few designs in CAD, just to get moving, and we're interested in showing off a couple to give you an idea of the direction we're headed in. These will most likely be made in steel, and powdercoated textured black. Use these quick concepts as a jumping off point for your ideas, and let us know what you like, what you don't, what is important to you, and what isn't, we want to hear it all!

http://www.grimmspeed.com/images/BRZ...ktConcept2.jpg

I know what you're thinking: "I dunno, I guess I need to see what it looks like on the car to really be able to tell." Well, me too. So I used my favorite thing in the world to print one of these concepts up:

Re-read this post a couple of times, take a look at the pictures, visualize it on your own car, then come back and let us know your opinions! I'll be updating this thread often as this project progresses, just the same as we did on our thread about the hood struts. We literally can not wait to hear your ideas, so don't be shy!

Chase
Engineering

GrimmSpeed 04-09-2013 05:33 PM

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Noob4Life 04-09-2013 05:47 PM

I like this bar because 1. it's simple and 2. retains use of the OEM triangular bars which leads to a lower cost. Any chance you guys are thinking about offering different colors? (Red/blue/polished, the normal strut bar colors)

This truly does look like a function over form bar. Subed for updates :thumbsup:

stockysnail 04-09-2013 05:48 PM

I agree it should be welded, not hinged. It should also be solid, not hollow and very strong as to not bend under extreme forces. I like the example in the pictures and where it is mounting as long as there isn't any unwanted flex on those points in the chassis compared to the strut bolt points. If you're able to keep the price around $100 (ideally exactly $100) then I'd buy it. I'd also like an option for different colors like textured red, black, and blue.

Fenrir 04-09-2013 06:23 PM

I'm curious to see how much this will actually benefit the chassis, as it already seems pretty stiff to begin with. Most testing I've seen shows that it takes QUITE a bit of stress to make these things worth it (Outside cosmetics, obviously. The ricer in me thinks they look badass.). If anyone can produce some reliable data it'll be you guys. Subbed for interest!

whitefrs 04-09-2013 06:43 PM

looks nice but needs different colors

PNW FRS 04-09-2013 06:47 PM

Function = Benefit notwithstanding... from a purely aesthetic standpoint... I like the simple clean look and wonder if you are considering having replacements for OEM braces so that there is a consistent "look and feel" (i.e., texture, etc.).

If so.. .then +1 on offering in different colors.

civicdrivr 04-09-2013 06:54 PM

Welded solid, I wouldn't mind preload adjustment, powdercoated semi gloss black (to match the stock bars better). Where do I send payment?

RazBRZ 04-09-2013 06:59 PM

I think the prototype looks perfect and I definitely want it to match the MCB and Hood Struts. I like the solid idea. Maybe do what you did with the struts and add and option logo that you can put on. Of course the cheaper the better without sacrificing the rigidity. Replacements for the stock triangle bars as an option or next project would be nice too. I have a Crawford AOS so the would have to mount close to stock

Jayde 04-09-2013 07:02 PM

Hmmm.....

Dustin 04-09-2013 07:11 PM

Forgive the crappy MSPaint rendering but could you not have it mount something like this? Something about mounting it solely to that piece of metal that is tack welded onto the strut tower seems flimsy to me. Other than that, love the solid, no hinge design.

http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/q...tb_proto1a.jpg

Jeffboyarrdee 04-09-2013 07:17 PM

1. Would be cool to have grimmspeed versions of the stock triangular bars as well (optional) which is nice since they are separate pieces and don't need to be purchased if not wanted.
2. Solid bars,not hollow
3. Nice colors would be a plus over functionality of course
4. If the main bar shares the same bolts as the stock bars, maybe having hardware that has longer threads, I know it would be nice to just use the stock hardware, but if calls for it, it might be worth it. That's something I've found with the password jdm struts, they are short in my opinion.

I like how they are straight and don't have unnecessary bends, weld points, or hinged. This should be a straightforward rigid design
I like how they don't surround the entire circle around the struts, I think they just need to hit those two points you have or the 3 on the inside.
I like the design, it's not too big and it's simple. If its affordable I may ditch what I have haha. It's nice to have something we all collectively have input toward.

So if there's a group buy I'm in haha

chanomatik 04-09-2013 07:18 PM

I like the idea of a solid bar. OEM-looking paint like the hood struts would be awesome. Optional paint colors would be welcomed, like red or blue at least, or maybe a color that better compliments your logo. It gets kinda messy when you offer colors, though, since it's nearly impossible to color-match and compliment aftermarket parts.

The angle of my reasoning: I plan on getting the blue engine cover, so a blue bar has a high chance of looking tacky stretched across the engine bay, not matching the engine cover's blue color.

Are the stock mounting studs designed to withstand the extra pressure from the strut bar? Are they long enough to withhold their length and integrity with having another part bolted to the chassis?

Overall, I'm for this. I know your price will be reasonable. I expect it to cost more than $100, but not a whole lot more.

mottor 04-09-2013 07:19 PM

Do you find any benefit in using the strut mounting bolts to mount the strut tower bar? Does this increase rigidity? I know that many are looking to save cost by using the OEM triangulation bars, but would there be any benefit in incorporating these in one solid triangulation bar? If so, how much?


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