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DeliciousTuning 10-10-2014 07:29 PM

Delicious Flash & GO Tunes for ALL FORCED INDUCTION Applications - Q&A
 
Delicious Tuning has spent over a year developing what we call our Flash & Go Tunes. The original intention with these tunes was to create a tune that will work on almost any forced induction application including all superchargers to turbo kits running up to 22 pounds of boost currently. We also wanted to incorporate our own technology so we can offer more advance features that are not available in the market currently through your personal Android (phone or head unit) or iPhone.

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EcuTeK ProECU Tuning Software (showing custom mapping and speed density tables)

Why would we create something like this?
- We created this so for the main reasons customers expressed to us below:
1. Instant gratification after the forced induction installation is complete
2. There is no access to a local BRZ/FRS/86 tuner
3. There is also no access to a dyno facility for remote tuner
4. Ability to change boost levels without retuning
5. Ability to run FlexFuel with boosted applications
With this in mind we also looked at designing the tune to be as much OEM feeling as possible. We pride ourselves on meeting unrealistic expectations, basically if someone tells us it is not possible we will find a way to make it happen. To meet those levels requested by our customer base we have designed our own standards for the optimal tune.

Delicious Tuning Standards for a Dedicated Daily Driver and/or Fun Weekend Driver:
1. It must start and idle similar or better to an OEM vehicle (auto or manual)
a. Includes 91,92,93,94 octane, 95, 98 RON and E85
b. Includes cold start, warm start and hot restart
c. Includes head lights on/off, AC on/off, Defog or Defrost on/off
d. Includes cold, cool, average, warm and hot conditions
e. Includes elevation changes from sea level to a mile plus above
f. Must be consistent and repeatable
2. It must drive similar or better to an OEM vehicle (auto or manual)
a. Includes stop and go traffic, highway cruising and the average there of
b. Includes 91,92,93,94 octane, 95, 98 RON and E85
c. Includes cold start, warm start and hot restart
d. Includes head lights on/off, AC on/off, Defog or Defrost on/off
e. Includes cold, cool, average, warm and hot conditions
f. Includes elevation changes from sea level to a mile plus above
g. Must be consistent and repeatable
3. It must perform similar or better in MPG to an OEM vehicle (auto or manual)
a. Includes stop and go traffic, highway cruising and the average there of
b. Includes 91,92,93,94 octane, 95, 98 RON and E85
c. Includes cold start, warm start and hot restart
d. Includes head lights on/off, AC on/off, Defog or Defrost on/off
e. Includes cold, cool, average, warm and hot conditions
f. Includes elevation changes from sea level to a mile plus above
g. Must be consistent and repeatable
4. It must perform with an expected power delivery
a. Includes 91,92,93,94 octane, 95, 98 RON and E85
b. Includes head lights on/off, AC on/off, Defog or Defrost on/off
c. Includes cold, cool, average, warm and hot conditions
d. Includes elevation changes from sea level to a mile plus above
e. Must be consistent and repeatable
We have been testing the tune and many revisions of the tune over the past year and currently our Flash & Go Tune now resides on the following forced inductions applications in the market.

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JDL Turbo Kit - Borg Warner using Flash & Go

Forced Induction Applications Tested
1. AVO Turbo Kits
2. BoomBop Turbo Kits
3. CX Racing Turbo Kits
4. Custom Turbo Kits
a. Rear Mounted
b. Home Built Projects
5. Electric Supercharger
6. FA20Club Turbo Kit
7. Full Blown Turbo Kits
8. Greddy Turbo Kits
9. HKS Superchargers
10. Innovate/Sprintex Supercharger
11. Jackson Racing Supercharger
12. JDL by Design Turbo Kits
13. Kraftwerks Superchargers
14. MA Performance Turbo Kits
15. PTuning Turbo Kits
16. Speed By Design Turbo Kits
17. Vortech Supercharger
Flash & Go Tunes Will Also Work On
1. Crawford Performance Turbo Kits
2. P&L Turbo Kits
3. RevWorks Turbo Kits
4. STS Turbo Kits

While this may not be all the kits available on the market we are confident the Flash & Go Tune will work on just about any forced induction setup available now or in the future.

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Delicious Tuning FlexFuel Kit & Boost On Demand System (in development)

Flash & Go Tune incorporates the following features and options
1. FlexFuel for 91 to E85 applications (using rear O2 to ECU input)
2. Boost On Demand via Android / IPhone Application (In Development)
a. Overboost Fuel Cut
3. Scaling For Nearly All Injectors
a. Bosch EV14
b. Deatchwerks
c. Injector Dynamics
d. Fuel Injector Clinic
4. Scaling For Nearly All Manifold Pressure Sensors
a. Delicious Tuning 11 PSI MAP Sensor
b. Delicious Tuning 26 PSI MAP Sensor
c. Omni 3 Bar MAP Sensor
d. Hondata / Omni 4 Bar MAP Sensor
5. Pure Speed Density VE Tables (MAF Sensor not required)
6. Tip In Knock Correction
7. Customized Traction control
8. Valet Mode Map Selection
9. RaceROM Special Features
a. Switchable Maps
b. Flat Foot Shifting
c. Auto Blip
d. Launch Control
e. Per Gear Rev Limit
f. Accelerator Trim
Flash & Go Tune Version: 28.50
Updates Include:
- changes to help mitigate LSPI (low speed pre-ignition)
- drivability improvement over 27.5x and 28.xx
- more top end power on the Edelbrock supercharger
- more accurate AFR readings
- better closed loop fuel control under WOT

Latest version information in the 2nd post below.


For more information, dyno charts on our Flash & Go Tunes please visit our website directly:
http://www.delicioustuning.com/flash_and_go

Cheers,
William Knose
Delicious Tuning

DeliciousTuning 10-10-2014 07:34 PM

With over 9 years of tweaking this platform we have officially released version 33.50.

Current Flash & Go Tune Version: 33.50
Updates Include:
- full time speed density (SD mode)
- faster spool up on turbo applications
- more stable idle over stock and previous versions
- additional changes to help mitigate LSPI (low speed pre-ignition)
- drivability improvement over 28.50 and 31.50
- increased top end performance

SmsAlSuwaidi 10-10-2014 10:13 PM

Delicious Flash & GO Tunes for ALL FORCED INDUCTION Applications - Q&A
 
Im really bad with these long reviews and projecting ideas into words but here goes.

I've had two cars done at Delicious tuning and it was spot on.
Car1) map turbo kit gtx3076 3" turbo back catted/resonated
This is my personal car that i beat so hard on 18sh psi daily. I took this car to a drag event and did over 10 back to back pulls in 90+ temps. The car also topped 6th. The tune was on point. The car never complained (tunewise) and ran like a champ

Car2) fa20crap kit 60trim, stock op, test pipe and a q300

What bill did was take my 91 oct map (car1) and put it on this car. Straight away the tune was flawless and even performed way better than the previous tune at wg (previously evasive tuned ). The car was a blast to drive and was the perfect daily on 91

Long story short, i tested this and had a great experience with what bill has to offer. i personally tested the same map on two different cars. The cars barely had anything in common other than a stock block. Obviously a bit of tweaking here in there is a must for optimal performance but Bill knows what he's doing and it works pretty well. Im currently building my block on car1 and should be back for some more crazy power.


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dabocx 10-10-2014 11:04 PM

So revisions are less needed than other maps? I have a gtx28 right now with a 2.5 vatted exhaust let's say I jump up to a 3 inch catless setup, how much work needs to be done? Let's say I jump up to a gtx35 and more fuel, is it simple to change or is it going to take 30-40 revisions.

By any chance have you tuned a car with a gtx3567? Curious on your thoughts. Thank you for your time

maxjedi 10-11-2014 08:44 AM

Please send me new version, dongle id 6B-13-AE

JDLAutoDesign 10-11-2014 11:24 AM

We just finished a turbo install and did a flash and go last night. I can attest to 1. Instant gratification after the forced induction installation is complete. Once our kit was on we flashed and went for a ride. Def put a smile on my face. JDL will be offering Delicious tunes for all our turbo systems


Thanks for making the process so easy Bill :thumbup:

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JoonPrime 10-11-2014 04:23 PM

im a bit confused since im no good with technology and new to cars
ive got a kraftwerks kit installed on my baby and its for the most part a DD, and currently tuned to the base tune kraftwerks sends you for 91 gas.

with this, i could reflash my car to say, get better mileage for the winter since im not gonna be going boost in bad weather?
and should a random sunny day appear, i can reflash the car again to boost for 93 gas?

kbye 10-11-2014 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoonPrime (Post 1980685)
im a bit confused since im no good with technology and new to cars
ive got a kraftwerks kit installed on my baby and its for the most part a DD, and currently tuned to the base tune kraftwerks sends you for 91 gas.

with this, i could reflash my car to say, get better mileage for the winter since im not gonna be going boost in bad weather?
and should a random sunny day appear, i can reflash the car again to boost for 93 gas?

you don't have to keep reflashing, that's what ecutek switchable maps are for. so you could have a map for 91 octane and another for 93.

edit: here's a video from Delicious Tuning showing how it's done.

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Basket Case 10-11-2014 10:31 PM

I think you guys made my choice for tuning pretty easy for when I go FI.

romin 10-12-2014 01:36 PM

This tune appeals to me however I don't see any mention of headers in the thread.
Does the tune take them into account?

If I were to apply this tune to a FI motor with Full Blown's 10:1 compression block using their head and cam improvements would it work or would I still need a custom tune?

DeliciousTuning 10-12-2014 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by romin (Post 1981295)
This tune appeals to me however I don't see any mention of headers in the thread.
Does the tune take them into account?

If I were to apply this tune to a FI motor with Full Blown's 10:1 compression block using their head and cam improvements would it work or would I still need a custom tune?

There would need to be adjustments for ignition timing as the timing values would need to be advanced for the lower compression. But that would be about it. Fueling changes would be very minimal.

We are working on some additional features with our module that would allow and over all timing advance also for lower compression setups. This is in development.

Cheers,
William Knose
Delicious Tuning

DeliciousTuning 10-12-2014 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxjedi (Post 1980334)
Please send me new version, dongle id 6B-13-AE

Converting the Euro file today. I should have that out to you later today.

Cheers,
William Knose
Delicious Tuning

Deadspool 10-13-2014 12:22 AM

PM'd

fasteddy 10-13-2014 04:38 PM

Bill, this sounds like a great option for me. I am looking at getting a Jackson Racing supercharger system.

How would this work if I got the JRC and say a ptuning header? Would you revise the initial tune you send me before I first install it, or get some data from me after I have it running?

One of my main concerns is not having any daily driving driveability issues. Based on your description I should not have any of these issues?

How much for a re-tune later, say if I get a header at a later time?

Also, do your tunes account for cold climate driving, like up here in MN?

Thanks!

Pat


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